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Mk V Supra - My Evo's Replacement?

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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 02:03 PM
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No more magnet numbers, unless small enough to squeeze on the rear. I had the same problem with another car
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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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Eh just put in the stock headlight and unbolt the wing for DD. It looks pretty good for street use with those changes.
I wouldn't drive that car on the street. All the aero on that car is from Spage, combined it's over $10k of carbon. Good luck getting an insurance company to cover any of that stuff getting damaged or stolen.


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More so I don't want to drill into the car to put all that aero on.

FYI, the supra hatch is composite plastic. The only steel panels on the car are the rear fenders. The rest are aluminum or composite.
And somehow it's still 3300lbs haha. Kinda blows my mind when it's smaller with two less driven wheels than the Yaris GR, yet 500lbs heavier.
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Old Dec 18, 2021 | 03:58 PM
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And somehow it's still 3300lbs haha. Kinda blows my mind when it's smaller with two less driven wheels than the Yaris GR, yet 500lbs heavier.
Not "somehow". Come on, you know why.

The Supra has a big 3.0L inline 6 water to air intercooled compared to a 3cyl 1.6L air to air intercooled, an 8 speed auto transmission (with cooler) compared to a 6 speed manual. 19x10/19x9 wheels compared to 18x8 wheels. 275/255/19 tires compared to 225/18 tires. Yaris GR has some carbon panels. Supra has leather/heated/electric adjusted seats compare to Yaris manual. Yaris has way more plastic than leather/soft touch interior. The Supra has a huge heat exchanger in front, trans cooler, radiator, and two additional radiators on each side.

These items alone add up to the difference. If you really want a more fair comparison, compare the Toyota GR 86 to the Yaris GR. Both are stripped down cheaper cars, not a luxury GT car. Hell, I have already found about 15lbs of "harmonic dampeners" bolted on to random places on my Supra.

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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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If you don’t like the RS3 dsg, you probably won’t like the Supra ZF. I’m assuming you regret because of less engagement. If so, no matter how good the auto is, you will probably not be into it.
I test drove a 2021 Supra today. WAY better than I expected. It’s at the top of my list now. The automatic was fine given how much torque and response there was everywhere.
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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I was in with the new breed of auto trans for a while now. I've owned SST and DSG equipped cars. Currently have a DSG equipped VW. The ZF trans in the Supra is superior to both those. It's nice and smooth around town but aggressive in sport mode when driving hard. Has brutal WOT upshifts (in a good way). Anyone that thinks this is anywhere close to old "auto slush box" transmissions are talking out of their *** and hasn't experienced one yet. It's a very impressive transmission. Better than any DCT I have driven yet.
I agree. Better than the PDK in my old 2010 Cayman (new PDKs are better) and better at low speeds than the DSG my old RS3.
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I test drove a 2021 Supra today. WAY better than I expected. It’s at the top of my list now. The automatic was fine given how much torque and response there was everywhere.
You are done. Next post will be a picture of your new supra haha. This is the thing I tell everyone who doesn't like the supra, just wait until you drive it and I bet you will change your mind.
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
. Next post will be a picture of your new supra as long as you are willing to pay 12% over MSRP .
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 09:01 PM
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Hahaha good one. I take it you have had no luck on your quest....
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Old Dec 23, 2021 | 11:56 PM
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Gotta say I absolutely hate the field of view in the Supra, all A-pillar and hood...granted I'm short. The rest was lost on me due to view. Sticking to the Evo for the rest of time...or they stop selling gas.
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
Hahaha good one. I take it you have had no luck on your quest....
None. LOTS advertised at MSRP..... until I made the 2.5hr drive. Since dealerships won't be honest with the price even after telling them how far I'm driving AND I'm putting useless mileage on my tradr in, I gave up.
now I'm shopping GTRs since realizing a new '20 or '21 is the same price as a used one lol
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 05:46 AM
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Not sure I would want a new Supra with the tuning headaches. Bad enough that you need to “bench unlock” the older cars for a significant fee after getting a simple recall done at the dealer. I’m thinking a pre-6/20 2021 might be the sweet spot for a Supra?

Prices are elevated on all cars now, but I also got like $5-10k more for my RS3 than I would have in a normal market. So…
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Not sure I would want a new Supra with the tuning headaches. Bad enough that you need to “bench unlock” the older cars for a significant fee after getting a simple recall done at the dealer. I’m thinking a pre-6/20 2021 might be the sweet spot for a Supra?

Prices are elevated on all cars now, but I also got like $5-10k more for my RS3 than I would have in a normal market. So…
At least that should keep you from being so far upside down with a new car.
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 11:47 AM
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Unfortunately used Supras aren’t much cheaper than new currently unless they have miles and aren’t great condition.

With full transparency, I payed 58k for my 2020 last month. Plus $1,000 to ship it from Ohio to New York, plus taxes when I registered it. However, it was in as-new condition with the protective shipping plastics still on the door sills, media screen and carpet, with only 1,500 miles and it’s a launch edition. The tires and rotors didn’t even look like they had seen even modestly sporty driving yet.

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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 01:29 PM
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All the used Supras I'm finding seem to be MSRP or above.
2.0s are priced as 3.0s.
ridiculous.
I just can't.
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Old Dec 24, 2021 | 01:44 PM
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Crazy to think that just back in March, I got mine with 4 miles on it for 51k (plus tax) with zero haggling....
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