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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 01:26 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Missing the key GT350R engine though.
It's cool. But we all know how 50/50 reliability is LOL. I had a GREAT time winding out all day yesterday. But... I'd probably be okay with a different engine if it had improved reliability, which was the point, I assume.

Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Too bad they never retested the GT350s after the 2019 updates to the cup 2s, retuned magneride, etc. The Mach 1 inherited those improvements, except it didn't get the 5.2 engine with them.
That's probably where the 0.4sec came from.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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That's probably where the 0.4sec came from.
Moving from Pilot Super Sports to the Cup 2's will easily create that 0.4 sec difference.

PSS's are such crap on track
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Moving from Pilot Super Sports to the Cup 2's will easily create that 0.4 sec difference.

PSS's are such crap on track
I think the drivers are like + or - 2 full seconds with Lightning Lap, not to mention that it's not the same track 6 years later.


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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I think the drivers are like + or - 2 full seconds with Lightning Lap, not to mention that it's not the same track 6 years later.
Yea there is that too. I believe I mentioned this earlier in this thread, I don't put a ton of weight into Lightning Lap but it's still fun to look at the results. A good example is that it's easily seen that VIR is a big time horsepower track, espically since they run the Grand Course which is 4.20 miles long. Perfect example is the AMG GT Black series sweeping up this year with 720 hp and factory aero.

At Thunderhill, there was a large difference in the higher horsepower cars when we would do the 5 mile compared to the 2.9 mile. So many more opportunities for the big boys to stretch their legs.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Moving from Pilot Super Sports to the Cup 2's will easily create that 0.4 sec difference.

PSS's are such crap on track
Weird, but in every exotics group I'm in, they all swear PSSs are god's gift to tires. When I suggest any other tire, I can feel them glaring at me through their web cams.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
Weird, but in every exotics group I'm in, they all swear PSSs are god's gift to tires. When I suggest any other tire, I can feel them glaring at me through their web cams.
PSS are great for driving on the street to the country club or cars and coffee.

Same thing in the supra groups. Ton of people think they are great.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 04:05 PM
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I just realized I am six weeks out from my first track day with the Supra, unless it keeps snowing.

I should probably move my pile of parts from the shelf to the car and start installing stuff... lol

Ordered a race seat today as well. Can't wait to have fun coding out the inevitable 5,000 lights the BMW trips when I take the oem seat out.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Missing the key GT350R engine though.
good thing in my book, more reliable and in my opinion the voodoo engine sounds like sh*t

Originally Posted by razorlab
Moving from Pilot Super Sports to the Cup 2's will easily create that 0.4 sec difference.

PSS's are such crap on track
careful, don't let any car journalists hear you say that. Cup2's aren't that great either, take forever to warm up and then only last a lap, maybe 2 if you're on a track with long straights. its engineered to set a record time at the Nurburgring so that's as long as it lasts.

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Weird, but in every exotics group I'm in, they all swear PSSs are god's gift to tires. When I suggest any other tire, I can feel them glaring at me through their web cams.
see above, exotics guys usually listen to car journalists... who only drive oem cars, which typically only come with PSS/PS4S or Cup2's

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PSS are great for driving on the street to the country club or cars and coffee.

Same thing in the supra groups. Ton of people think they are great.
I don't even like to for street driving... I mean its fine, but it seams like a waste of money. there are tires that perform about the same for a lot less money and is more than anyone will need on the street. I'd rather put that money towards more track tires.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Saw this guy out on track yesterday. Times aren't posted, so not sure how well he did. With all that going on, it's gotta be fast. Looks like a McLaren and a handful of GT3/GT3RSs were fastest of the day. I knew I shoulda' held out for the P-car
Then there was this GT2RS. I haven't seen his lap time, but probably right up there also.



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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 09:39 PM
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Mmmmm, GT2... The Supra fits in well though, totally a poor mans P-car.
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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The Lightning Lap results definitely feel more like an ordering of horsepower than handling.

Seeing X5 M Comp outrun the Civic Type R and the Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT go faster than the M3 Competition is funny, though.

Maybe we're all doing this wrong. Just need to get something with a big V8, gently boost it, and stick to tracks with a lot of long straights.
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
Saw this guy out on track yesterday. Times aren't posted, so not sure how well he did. With all that going on, it's gotta be fast. Looks like a McLaren and a handful of GT3/GT3RSs were fastest of the day. I knew I shoulda' held out for the P-car
Then there was this GT2RS. I haven't seen his lap time, but probably right up there also.
Did you take the Stang out on the track or just watching?
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
Did you take the Stang out on the track or just watching?
Oh, yeah. I'm a spoiled brat. I don't go to a track day unless I get to drive So. The Supra matched my Evo. Not bad. The mustang did pretty well, considering I only got in 12 laps. My fastest lap had no traffic but... well, you'll see. I was so close to a half-way-decent one This was my first time giving the car the beans. I didn't quite figure out tire pressures, though wear was nice and even. The car sounds so much nicer than the John Deer... er... Evo. Since the car didn't come with the OEM camber plates, I tossed on some Vorshlags and Good Year Supercar 3 Rs. I can't wait to get comfortable enough to get a flyer in. The car feels SO much more stable than the Evo. I guess being two tons and over six feet wide will have that effect.


This is what the car *CAN* do (Says he's using my same setup, possibly a more aggressive alignment):





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