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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Nothing yet. Remember, this is the government: if they have up to 90 days from passage to the Governor's signature, you can be quite sure that it will take at least 89 days.

It passed on 5/30/09, so I wouldn't expect any movement on this until at least the end of this month (that's the deadline for the Speaker to get it to the Governor's desk). He's got two months after that to get around to signing it.

Also, there appears to be a somewhat conflicting bill: HB4327 (passed on 5/19/09), which edits the same language that HB3325 touches. Both bills passed, and are awaiting a signature from the Governor. I have absolutely no idea what happens in a case like this.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by awdboosted
No kidding.. That my 7th tint ticket.

The tally:
7th tint ticket
4th no front plate.
2nd loud exhaust.

Grand total $0 dollar paid to the state because I fight them all. Don't you think they would learn.
How do you fight those? Isn't it either you did or didnt violate the law? What argument do you give?

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Also, there appears to be a somewhat conflicting bill: HB4327 (passed on 5/19/09), which edits the same language that HB3325 touches. Both bills passed, and are awaiting a signature from the Governor. I have absolutely no idea what happens in a case like this.
They just want our money!

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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question for all you people who have a better understanding of the laws than I do. If this State law passes, does it "trump" any local laws that these individual towns, cities, and suburbs have with regards to car tints? What about County law (if there is such a thing)? I'm just curious. thanks
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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It's an interesting question. The Illinois Constitution allows "home rule units" (cities, municipalities, etc) to govern their own affairs, by and large, except where the legislature has said they can't. However, the Illinois Municipal Code only provides for local regulation of speed, inspections, student busing, and inoperable vehicles. And, because the Illinois Vehicle Code regulations are written so specifically, it would be reasonable to assume that a local ordinance would not have force of law over the state regulations here.

That's not to say a city couldn't pass such a local ordinance, and then expect you to go to court over it if you disagree with their right to fine you for the violation.

However, I'm no attorney, and I'm probably grossly over-simplifying this. Any attorneys reading this who want to take a crack at it?
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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So basically I need to "pay MD for a note?
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 04:55 AM
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Today, you need a doctor to sign off on it, and get the special plate, if you want the front side windows tinted.

Once this is law, you should be able to tint your windows to the maximums listed in the bill (0/100, 50/30, 35/35), but it's not law yet.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by logic
It's an interesting question. The Illinois Constitution allows "home rule units" (cities, municipalities, etc) to govern their own affairs, by and large, except where the legislature has said they can't. However, the Illinois Municipal Code only provides for local regulation of speed, inspections, student busing, and inoperable vehicles. And, because the Illinois Vehicle Code regulations are written so specifically, it would be reasonable to assume that a local ordinance would not have force of law over the state regulations here.

That's not to say a city couldn't pass such a local ordinance, and then expect you to go to court over it if you disagree with their right to fine you for the violation.

However, I'm no attorney, and I'm probably grossly over-simplifying this. Any attorneys reading this who want to take a crack at it?
Cool. over-simplifying is not always a bad thing

Anyone else with any knowledge on the Vehicle Codes and laws want to chime in? This is getting to be a rather interesting subject (hopefully we can get front license plates killed also)

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Tint

I hate tinted windows up front, but to each his own
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Raikiri
How do you fight those? Isn't it either you did or didnt violate the law? What argument do you give?



They just want our money!
You will have to go to court. You bring proof you removed them.. AKA.. another picture of an Evo or an invoice from a shop say the were removed.. Done and done.

Cops that give thous tickets are a bunch of A***.. Period..
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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If you went to court in cook county the fine alone would be less than the court costs associated with it. . What a joke. Plus I would only expect this to work once in court, but every time thereafter where your plates are run by a cop or you have interaction with a cop and they see your record, you would be walking away with a ticket.

As far as cops doing what they are paid for and enforcing rules that people knowingly and willingly break, I don't really see them as being evil for doing their job. Just about everyone I know who gets their windows tinted does so knowing it's illegal, and in doing so they are setting themselves up to periodically make donations to the state. You can dislike the laws as much as you want, but it's not the officers fault for doing their job, its the owners fault for rolling the dice on that one.

Originally Posted by awdboosted
You will have to go to court. You bring proof you removed them.. AKA.. another picture of an Evo or an invoice from a shop say the were removed.. Done and done.

Cops that give thous tickets are a bunch of A***.. Period..
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Someone posted this in the thread I started over on NASIOC. . logic, you've had all the good info in this thread, any truth to it, that you know of?

Originally Posted by gero704
sent to gov. on the 26th...
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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Yep, just look at the bill status; as of the 26th, the Governor has 60 days to sign it, veto it, or send it back. Given the lack of controversy over it, I'd be really surprised if it wasn't signed as-is.

That being said, I'm still concerned about the text of HB4327; it was sent to the Governor on the 17th, and it's the one whose text conflicts with the same text in HB3325 (the one we want ). I still have no idea how that kind of situation gets rectified.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by logic
Yep, just look at the bill status; as of the 26th, the Governor has 60 days to sign it, veto it, or send it back. Given the lack of controversy over it, I'd be really surprised if it wasn't signed as-is.

That being said, I'm still concerned about the text of HB4327; it was sent to the Governor on the 17th, and it's the one whose text conflicts with the same text in HB3325 (the one we want ). I still have no idea how that kind of situation gets rectified.

I looked over the status as well and saw that after I posted.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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As far as cops doing what they are paid for and enforcing rules that people knowingly and willingly break, I don't really see them as being evil for doing their job. Just about everyone I know who gets their windows tinted does so knowing it's illegal, and in doing so they are setting themselves up to periodically make donations to the state. You can dislike the laws as much as you want, but it's not the officers fault for doing their job, its the owners fault for rolling the dice on that one.
Couldn't have said it better. I'm surprised that so many on here have read what I read and still believed that this amendment would affect them. Even more surprising is how some actually believe WT plates are in their future.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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wow why couldnt this law be passed 2 years ago....i received 1 warning and 2 tickets in a matter of 24 hrs and still received a fine even after i had proof that the tints had been removed...exciting news indeed though...cant wait to finally murder out the ix!!
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