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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:54 AM
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On 3/18 I wrote a post: "but we still have not seen the Sauber do its potential...at the start of the race, both of their cars were damaged (front and rear wings) with associated parts falling off throughout the race...what I am looking for is a race where they survive the bumper car start and then C what they can do..."...to which U responded:
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Assuming everything equal, and everyone makes it through the bumper car start, then their potential is 9th.
...I hate it when I'm right!
Later, Ken

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GG06MR
I think you quoted the wrong guy. I've never indicated or suggested that Perez is capable of winning a world championship, at least not yet. In fact, I was simply drawing the comparison in my post of Sauber's win in the rain as equivalent to Toro Rosso's win in the rain a few years ago. The similarity is that Toro Rosso was not capable of winning a race in the dry that year, and neither is Sauber this year.
Is this love fest between Samson and GG going sour?

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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^ Pretty sure by 9th he was talking about 9th in the race not constructors.....
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xVforVelocityx
^ Pretty sure by 9th he was talking about 9th in the race not constructors.....
Not based upon the respone to my post...but I let it go.

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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xVforVelocityx
What do you guys think about Bahrain's chances of getting cancelled again this year? I personally hope it does since its by far the most boring track on the calendar besides Valencia
This from one of the team principals who requested anonymity:"If I’m brutally frank, the only way they can pull this race off without incident is to have a complete military lockdown there. And I think that would be unacceptable, both for F1 and for Bahrain. But I don’t see any other way they can do it."

So the hand riding on the wall is Baharain GP 2012 will go as 2011.

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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xVforVelocityx
^ Pretty sure by 9th he was talking about 9th in the race not constructors.....
Bingo!
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KPerez
On 3/18 I wrote a post: "but we still have not seen the Sauber do its potential...at the start of the race, both of their cars were damaged (front and rear wings) with associated parts falling off throughout the race...what I am looking for is a race where they survive the bumper car start and then C what they can do..."...to which U responded:
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Yeah? Be sure to let us know when it actually happens.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Is this love fest between Samson and GG going sour?

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I can't believe you took the time to post that. So sad.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:48 AM
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Looks like the W-Duct is gonna stay on the Merc. Lotus filed a complaint and the FIA shot it down. Now all the teams have to scamble and figure out if they're gonna copy it or not... Honestly, I think its biggest advantage comes in quali since you can use it anywhere.

Looking forward to this race, China was a great show last year.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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$999 to ride in a 3-seater F1 car driven by an F1 driver.
http://formulagpexperience.com/experience.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCskQX9wGQ
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KPerez
Is this love fest between Samson and GG going sour?

Later, Ken
Actually, it was my mistake. I had read your rather moronic comments and had that in mind when I was typing. Thanks for referencing me though. See, I don't worship at your footstool, nor do I take time to usually read your rather boring comments. If I want to read a copy and pasted blog post, I can go there myself. I would rather read original remarks like the others in this thread do.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
Looks like the W-Duct is gonna stay on the Merc. Lotus filed a complaint and the FIA shot it down. Now all the teams have to scamble and figure out if they're gonna copy it or not... Honestly, I think its biggest advantage comes in quali since you can use it anywhere.

Looking forward to this race, China was a great show last year.
Pete, there was a great explanation of how the duct worked on Speed during the P2 session today. While it works great in practice and qualifying with unlimited use of the DRS, it is severely limited in the race. Not sure if the other teams see any merit in the system because it certainly has done nothing in race conditions. It is fun however to see how teams try to exploit loopholes in the rules, which is what F1 should be all about.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SamsonEvoX
Pete, there was a great explanation of how the duct worked on Speed during the P2 session today. While it works great in practice and qualifying with unlimited use of the DRS, it is severely limited in the race. Not sure if the other teams see any merit in the system because it certainly has done nothing in race conditions. It is fun however to see how teams try to exploit loopholes in the rules, which is what F1 should be all about.
Yeah that was a pretty cool explanation Steve gave on the coverage of P2, I do agree that it probably doesn't serve much purpose for the race but I still think the teams will try to develop their own systems for qualifying just for the extra track position.

Agreed, the reactive ride height system the Lotus had should've never been banned imo.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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I don't know if you guys watch F1 Debief, but I think Posey's Perspective hit the nail on the head regarding Massa... I must say, his piece is one of the things I enjoy most about Speed's coverage of F1.
Also, a great breakdown of Merc's F-duct on tonights episode. That was the first time I've seen a pic of the actual ducting in the nose, pretty cool.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 04:35 AM
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China Qualy

Let's see: no rain, no mechanical problems...Sauber grid positions 4&8< 9...yup, right again...now wait for race tomorrow

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