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The thing I haven't heard good things about is logging without having a computer directly connected. I want to be able to log data on track for every run and pull it quickly if I need to (if I have an issue for instance). The AEM and Motec seem to be ok with this but the Haltec 1500 that Zack is running didn't seem to play nicely. I was talking to his codriver so maybe have misunderstood but they couldn't just pull logs of saved data quickly between runs
For my need, I have to communicate with Racecapture to send some relevant data I check every run (pressures, speed, AFR, along with GPS and accelerometer data) and want to add the data for knock, timing, TPS, wheel speed, and some other things. I wont look at everything every run but I am checking thing between every run comparing drivers and car status.
The more I think about things though, Im glad I was forced to wait till after I test the ACD tuning next year while logging pressure directly. That will sway my option of motec vs other.
Lumpy, on your pricing you get for Motec, Im guessing thats with basic logging (forget the terminology) and no plug-n-play harness plus no standard starting point like you get with JohnReed setup?
The thing I haven't heard good things about is logging without having a computer directly connected. I want to be able to log data on track for every run and pull it quickly if I need to (if I have an issue for instance). The AEM and Motec seem to be ok with this but the Haltec 1500 that Zack is running didn't seem to play nicely. I was talking to his codriver so maybe have misunderstood but they couldn't just pull logs of saved data quickly between runs
For my need, I have to communicate with Racecapture to send some relevant data I check every run (pressures, speed, AFR, along with GPS and accelerometer data) and want to add the data for knock, timing, TPS, wheel speed, and some other things. I wont look at everything every run but I am checking thing between every run comparing drivers and car status.
The more I think about things though, Im glad I was forced to wait till after I test the ACD tuning next year while logging pressure directly. That will sway my option of motec vs other.
Lumpy, on your pricing you get for Motec, Im guessing thats with basic logging (forget the terminology) and no plug-n-play harness plus no standard starting point like you get with JohnReed setup?
Thats strange its literally 2 clicks to pull the logging. or you can view it straight on the software while plugged in. sounds like its more of a user not understanding how to use the product more so than a product issue.
Besides dont u have to pay a subscription to motec to do anything to do with logging etc?
As regards to the haltech i have heard rumours of whats coming. if it turns out true then its going to be a gamechanger.
Again these are just rumours ive heard from industry insiders nothing from haltech themselves. Hopefully this is whats coming
The thing I haven't heard good things about is logging without having a computer directly connected. I want to be able to log data on track for every run and pull it quickly if I need to (if I have an issue for instance). The AEM and Motec seem to be ok with this but the Haltec 1500 that Zack is running didn't seem to play nicely. I was talking to his codriver so maybe have misunderstood but they couldn't just pull logs of saved data quickly between runs
For my need, I have to communicate with Racecapture to send some relevant data I check every run (pressures, speed, AFR, along with GPS and accelerometer data) and want to add the data for knock, timing, TPS, wheel speed, and some other things. I wont look at everything every run but I am checking thing between every run comparing drivers and car status.
The more I think about things though, Im glad I was forced to wait till after I test the ACD tuning next year while logging pressure directly. That will sway my option of motec vs other.
Lumpy, on your pricing you get for Motec, Im guessing thats with basic logging (forget the terminology) and no plug-n-play harness plus no standard starting point like you get with JohnReed setup?
So yes, what I can get from Motec would just be the ecu plus whatever upgrades you need (that part can get expensive). What John Reed does is he sets up something like a base calibration so that all the OEM functions like speedo output, AC trigger, cooling fans and such work (AEM does this for you for free). He also encodes the ecu with cam and crank sensors. If you want to buy that firmware by itself, its something like $800 through him. The downside to that, is that firmware is locked to the ecu. You cant put the ecu in another car unless you get a different firmware. You can configure everything yourself but its a time consuming process. As far as I know John is the only one making a PnP harness for the Evos.
Long story short, if I was to buy a M130, Johns firmware and PnP harness, I would still be in it less then $3k. Me personally, I would just take the time to make my own firmware and save the $800. That would get me in a Motec PnP package for about $2k. Well worth it at that point if I didnt already have the AEM.
Logging with the AEM can be done 3 different ways. First one is with the laptop hooked up to the ECU. The other 2 options you dont need a laptop. You can either wire in a switch or you can set up parameters in the ecu so that when all criterias are met, it starts logging automatically and when one drops off for a certain amount of time, it stops logging (you get to set all the parameters for this). Its super easy to load the log and view it once the file is made. Plus, you can edit the tune while viewing the log. Thats a huge plus to me. All the things you are looking to log can easily be wired in to the AEM so you can log everything at once. You would have to get an expansion module though as it needs the extra inputs/outputs. Thats the downside to AEM. After all the OEM functions are assigned, you are left with 2 or 3 pins that you can assign to sensors.
Sell me those parts we talked about. I'll send you the cash, so you can send Dallas your cash, so Dallas can buy the discounted Motec kit while it's on sale: https://www.instagram.com/p/B55lzpsHDo8/
Logging with the AEM can be done 3 different ways. First one is with the laptop hooked up to the ECU. The other 2 options you dont need a laptop. You can either wire in a switch or you can set up parameters in the ecu so that when all criterias are met, it starts logging automatically and when one drops off for a certain amount of time, it stops logging (you get to set all the parameters for this). Its super easy to load the log and view it once the file is made. Plus, you can edit the tune while viewing the log. Thats a huge plus to me. All the things you are looking to log can easily be wired in to the AEM so you can log everything at once. You would have to get an expansion module though as it needs the extra inputs/outputs. Thats the downside to AEM. After all the OEM functions are assigned, you are left with 2 or 3 pins that you can assign to sensors.
This sounds standard across all ECU manufacturers and pretty much the bare minimum id expect from an ECU.
Also the motec sounds like a nightmare to configure. link and haltech etc u just plug in and everythings set up.
I have been busy not working on my car but rather doing a major overhaul / restoration of a friends evo 9. One of the things we did was put on a new tube and fin IC (rather cheap one really) but instead of just clamping everything togeather with numerous clamps and silicone hoses I welded on the first few bends so it is a bit cleaner install with less points of failure.. Upper IC hose has the DV welded on too (OE DV)... Will put up that pic later, when it is installed..
I have been busy not working on my car but rather doing a major overhaul / restoration of a friends evo 9. One of the things we did was put on a new tube and fin IC (rather cheap one really) but instead of just clamping everything togeather with numerous clamps and silicone hoses I welded on the first few bends so it is a bit cleaner install with less points of failure.. Upper IC hose has the DV welded on too (OE DV)... Will put up that pic later, when it is installed..
I've actually wanted to do the same. Not on the FMIC, though since I'm afraid I'd damage something and then have do more cutting/welding on a pricey part. Seeing how you guys are using a cheaper one, though.. maybe not that big of a deal. But yeah.. less clamps = more awesome. I'm still on the OEM stuff, so lots and lots and lots of clamps
The first core had less tubes and thicker core, but still was a nice tube and fin design with solid ammount of thin fins on the inside and outside. Then I bought this "improved" verrsion, with thinner core, but more thinner tubes... The first one worked well (I do measure inlet temps and temp rise) so I wanted to clean up the inlet piping and do something I wanted to do for my own car really... On my car I will probably fabricate the end tanks too.. As for cheap... this is a 176 EUR IC... which is what.. 190 USD.. and that is with 20% tax..
Since the intercooler core is hard-mounted to the chassis and the piping connects to the engine, which moves around, are you at all worried about stressing the core or losing too much flex in the system by welding those piping connections? Maybe having stiff engine mounts would alleviate that concern.
Since the intercooler core is hard-mounted to the chassis and the piping connects to the engine, which moves around, are you at all worried about stressing the core or losing too much flex in the system by welding those piping connections? Maybe having stiff engine mounts would alleviate that concern.
each tube connecting the IC to the engine has a flexible silicone tube at each end.. so there is room for the engine to move.... I am usually overzealous about engine movement.. My downpipes have 2 felx joints..
Will post pics when I am done..
each tube connecting the IC to the engine has a flexible silicone tube at each end.. so there is room for the engine to move.... I am usually overzealous about engine movement.. My downpipes have 2 felx joints..
Will post pics when I am done..
Yep basically as long as u have silicone somewhere ull be fine. I have silicone off the intercooler and a wiggins at the throttlebody and its fine. Rigid mounts help also with this however
Made the exhaust today... replaced the 2 bolt flanges with V bands, new Simmons silencers and tightened the routing a bit.. the old megan racing exhaust hanged down a bit..
I still need to finish the welding and decide on the tip... I am toying with the idea of using a slight downward bend for the tip... this might make it a bit less loud for people around the car..
The 2deg change for whatever reason didnt register to me that I already retard the intake MIVEC cam and would need to advance it. I made a new alignment tool (If I get bugged and remember I'll upload it with the standard tool to thingiverse) that moves both pulleys 2deg counter clockwise. Final Mivec range should be -0.25 to + 29.75.
And today I got the engine side firewall sound deadening mat pulled. In all the weight reduction threads they refer to the heavy cabin side but I never found an actual weight for the engine side. Since the EvoRS doesn't have this its an SCCA SM legal thing to pull.
Final weight is 2lbs 13oz. I also weighed the resister box for low Z OEM injectors, that was 7oz (just under 1/2 lb). Seems heavy but its a big heat sink. Its off in the box now.
