We lift that inside rear as early as possible. But you’d have to read through old posts of mine to understand the reason.

 

yea i think the base class, street, is also perhaps a little more limited in terms of how crazy you can get with setups - so i think in general, people run a fairly basic/standard/whatever you would expect kind of setup, and people seem much more focused on driving/technique than engineering, generally speaking. i dont know how FA specs coilovers, dont know anything on that front, i run ohlins. i have broken traction getting back on power and doing power oversteer but that is more of driver error/extreme situations than the norm.

for car setups, i think people are much more focused on ways to eke out power, mechanical grip, and then suspension set up is whatever it is and gets tweaked to driver preference. i'm personally not as concerned with getting the car to do the absolute right thing, vs being in the ballpark and then balance tweaked to how i'm most comfortable and go from there.

 

sure. I agree. but if the front suspension in compressing too much, therefore causing the seesaw effect, then I think that needs looking into. if the early tripoding is caused by limited suspension travel then that cant be good, maybe in autox-purpose cars its ok. I would have to observe other fast cars in that event to see if its normal (not bad) or bad

 

yup. track side engineers can only really work with what you brought. I think the tesla went sideways more often then the evo. I've done Watkins Glen to VIR, I have no experience with NCM or mid-Ohio(?) but it looks fun from here

 

yea. as far as just general feel of the evo goes for me personally, i'm pretty happy with the overall balance, except in low speed and tight corners, especially coming off of very high speeds. I'd love the car to have more front grip in those situations, without making the car too loose in other places. Hoping the upright helps there, with some over stuff planned.

FWIW, the g&g evo makes about 40whp more than my car, and it's a massive, massive difference out in some of these places, plus his car is a little lighter than mine. in addition, i think it's going to see a bit more power next year...

as for me, i'm going the other way. im going to try to downsize wheel & brake setup and see if I can optimize the balance a little better. We're going to move the acd and the battery to the trunk, plus smaller brakes, wheels, tires up front should lose about 10lbs per corner, plus whatever benefits the upright gives.

i also just replaced the driver's seat, and i am in love. it'll be a while before i'm able to test out how it feels though

 

It's so nice! I bet you dont jump curbs with this. Give yourself a -2 second modifier for not having a 'disposable car'

 

The inserts I linked allow you to put the camber adjustment bolt at either max or min camber and then you adjust at the tophat from there. I run them on my Fit and it's nice knowing I can smash the **** out of curbing without fear of anything getting knocked around in the alignment.

Also, the stock evo bolt has an eccentric shoulder underneath the bolt head, you won't be able to use that with these, you'll need to buy a second lower bolt which doesn't have the eccentric shoulder.

 

maybe I can cut one end

 

thanks, car has been through hell though, including into a tire wall. i still only hit low curbs though

ncm was ok but the real surprise of the year was heartland motorsports park, with the "fast 8" configuration. what a treat that was, i loved that place.


i just rewatched this video and damn my poor tires. no wonder they got destroyed at the next event. anyway yea would love more front grip to keep the front tires happier, but the general mindset at these events is to just drive better lol

 

Lack of droop is only the length of decompressed main spring. Anything futher is pointless and harmful to handling (increased weight transfer). So theres a difference between like 1/4-1/2 droop and 1-1.5" that happens to be equal to static compression. I keep seeing the two being misconstrued in conversation here. MCS is an example of a shock that actually has too little travel. Its not droop, its travel.

If their front is diving too much, they need to raise the front. I've seen all their videos, the car is too low up front. They need to raise it 0.5-0.75".

 

oops, double post

 

i did say 'suspension travel'... either by strut length/settings or bushings.
Raising the front, yeah that goes towards addressing the rear lift, like it or not
Can you find a GT/Supercar tripoding the rear? My goolging needs work

 

GT/Supercars dont have 60% front weight.

 

Is this a "You can take Evo out of rally, but you can't take rally out of Evo" kind of quirk?

 

I'm sure they can get 60% front weight the way theyre driving