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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 10:05 PM
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The crappy part of the stock cooler location is it heats up the RF tire as well. Usually see 30*+ higher temps on the RF tire vs LF.
not sure about that. the fender liners ramp up into the engine bay. I dont know if mine are different but I have 2" gap between fender liner and engine bottom cover for air bypassing the oil cooler.
the radiator fans blow super hot to the DR side wheel tho
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 10:37 PM
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not sure about that. the fender liners ramp up into the engine bay. I dont know if mine are different but I have 2" gap between fender liner and engine bottom cover for air bypassing the oil cooler.
the radiator fans blow super hot to the DR side wheel tho
The fender liner vents air (literally has vents in it) from the cooler into the wheel well, and the tire temp probe doesn't lie. You may not be sure of it, but I am. It's literally any track I go to, CW or CCW config. The RF tire is always much hotter than the left front. And I've heard these findings by other guys that track tire temp data.

The radiator fan blows air at the transmission, not the tire.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 11:29 PM
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those vent holes look small. on my car both fans turn on and blows out of the tie rod/axle area. firkin hot to even check tire pressures. maybe thru the crank pulley also?
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 09:30 AM
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i have noticed the RF being hotter than the LF as well, but I just assumed it was due to the engine being physically closer to the passenger side. not much that goes on in the driver's side in comparison.
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:07 AM
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I imagine this temp probing happens after a cooldown lap so while you're not beating on the tires anymore, youre engine temps will continue to blow very hot air into those wheel wells all the way to the paddock.
in autox i get more heat on the passenger side mainly because I'm less-confident/aggressive turning right
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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haha i also crank climate control heat (vents pointed out of the car) when i drive. wouldn't think it would make too much of a difference, but when i did it on another car that was beginning to overheat (coolant gauge actually climbing to hot), it prevented that from happening and coolant temp actually settled back down. only a few cooling options on our cars without getting very creative
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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haha i also crank climate control heat (vents pointed out of the car) when i drive. wouldn't think it would make too much of a difference, but when i did it on another car that was beginning to overheat (coolant gauge actually climbing to hot), it prevented that from happening and coolant temp actually settled back down. only a few cooling options on our cars without getting very creative
I always thought max AC works better. make those big fans work 110% lol
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:23 AM
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I always thought max AC works better. make those big fans work 110% lol
i've heard that too but given track temps the fans are for sure working 100%. maybe for autocross it's not? can't feel the heat anyway when you're going triple digit speeds with front windows open and vents pointed outwards
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ViciousLSD
I imagine this temp probing happens after a cooldown lap so while you're not beating on the tires anymore, youre engine temps will continue to blow very hot air into those wheel wells all the way to the paddock.
in autox i get more heat on the passenger side mainly because I'm less-confident/aggressive turning right

Data is data. We don't take tire temps after a cool down lap, that would make the temp innacurate. Car comes in to hot pit, hot, leaves again for cool down or additional laps. Based on G-force data its also not driver ability in left vs right turns.

You feel heat when checking tire temps/pressure from the 800+* brake rotor. Not because the fans are blowing.

Do with the info what you wish, I'll be over here improving my racecar.
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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGetThisDone
Data is data. We don't take tire temps after a cool down lap, that would make the temp innacurate. Car comes in to hot pit, hot, leaves again for cool down or additional laps. Based on G-force data its also not driver ability in left vs right turns.

You feel heat when checking tire temps/pressure from the 800+* brake rotor. Not because the fans are blowing.

Do with the info what you wish, I'll be over here improving my racecar.
I'm not disagreeing about your data. just understanding where the heat is coming from. you can always block those vents and see.
i can tell the difference between the heat from rotors vs positive airflow blowing into my skin believe it or not

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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 03:48 PM
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Here are some real-world pics of a Muscle car here in NZ.
Using a PWR radiator and oil cooler (tube/fin core) which is bolted together.
800+ whp from a Nascar engine, not seeing more than 90ºC oil temp for a 15minute race.
I'd love to make a setup like this for the Evo market, but I dont think people would pay $3000nzd for this setup.



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Old Feb 21, 2023 | 05:44 PM
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RonDavis will make 1off custom radiators with any features and size. They’ll even work with you to pick the correct size needed for your application, somewhat popular with the armature Corvette racers. Those things are hard to keep cool mostly due to the tiny opening and poor venting
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 01:38 AM
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From my perspective it seems like overkill to make the oil cooler the same dimesions as the radiator on the Evo. I was thinking of stacking the oil cooler at the top of the radiator core. This way you keep the same width and so not much of the original radiator core is lost. However now the oil cooler is drained to remove the radiator and vice versa.
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by deylag
From my perspective it seems like overkill to make the oil cooler the same dimesions as the radiator on the Evo. I was thinking of stacking the oil cooler at the top of the radiator core. This way you keep the same width and so not much of the original radiator core is lost. However now the oil cooler is drained to remove the radiator and vice versa.
The Evo has a large radiator, so they don't need matching size. I think Mike was more on the concept of stacking the coolers, not the matching size.
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Old Feb 22, 2023 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGetThisDone
Data is data. We don't take tire temps after a cool down lap, that would make the temp innacurate. Car comes in to hot pit, hot, leaves again for cool down or additional laps. Based on G-force data its also not driver ability in left vs right turns.

Do with the info what you wish, I'll be over here improving my racecar.
BTW I just recalled this, not exactly data....but when my coolant reservoir overflows, the fluid is under the hood and down the strut tower area (not sprayings but a lot). of course that might be specifically for my car
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