that's nothing new, they had that technology in the 80's

 

i would have signed up and ****** that wining $$ from you. but my car is not very competitive with the tranny in a cardboard box.

 

^lol.

 

what kind of engineer is he? i'm a software engineer but that doesn't mean ****

 

Software engineer is not a big deal, now a computer scientist is where it's at.

 

Kinda funny this was on Preston & Steve the other day. The discussion was what your job title is, and what you really do.

 

My degree is computer science but my work is software engineer

 

Chemical Engineer with minors in polymer science and domination.

Just think about the mechanics of a sway bar. To limit roll, the bar applies an upward load to the inside tire and a downward load to the outside tire. The cornering force generated by a tire is a function of friction (multiple factors) and normal force to the friction surface. Reducing the normal force will result in less cornering ability on that inside tire vs a free hanging wheel with the same spring rate.

Most oems use sways because a bump hit equally by both tires results in only the springs doing work. The new hydraulic systems on bmws, etc are likely there to have a softer ride when one wheel hits a bump and then stiffen during sport driving.

 

buy my swift sway bar

 

Btw, 10k is ~560 lb/in and 12k is ~670 lb/in. Those are still low for a street tire imo. Need around an extra 100lbs on each end, and maybe 200 on the back. These cars love to pick up inside rear, even with rca kit. Keeping the rear sway soft will help, but you need spring rate to help rotate.

 

Are you talking for autox or track?

 

hardpark

 

I am starting to think the only difference in track and Autocross is the toe settings (aero set up is different too). We do 1/4" out of front of car, Track car I would think is 0 toe out. High spring rates seem to be similar with both activities.

I was thinking about how I drove this weekend and how I drive autocross. Besides the higher speed and obvious higher level of danger, the car control aspect is the same. I do the same things to make the car rotate at 60 mph as I would 90 + mph. Turning in early, braking early etc. carry's over between the 2 sports. Think the way I drive autox where I try and cut distance most of the time does not necessarily apply to track because of higher speed. The late apex comes up alot more on track to set up exit of turn than it does autoxing (imo). The higher speed eliminates the need to cut distance most of the time on track. Keeping the speed higher wins in that case, like in the lightbulb. I was making the turn way to tight. Thai was instructing me to go 3/4 the way up toward wall on entry, this allowed to keep a higher speed throughout turn. Autox lower speeds usually warrants opposite approach with cutting distance wherever possible.

So to sum it up the car control in Autox and Tracking is basically the same, whatever works at 40-60 usually will work at 100 +. It is the way you approach things that is different, smoothness and balance of car when dealing with the speed is important (Marc shared his knowledge with me), cutting distance and getting on gas as early as possible for Autox. Looking ahead is required with both, the more you are looking ahead the better.

Autox / Track = very similar (imo)

Also to be clear, I would say I have A LOT to learn as far as being fast on track. Just like Autox has certain nuances (Marc's knowledge laid on me) so does tracking. I certainly need work on my smoothness and identifying where I need to put the car on my own, if someone tells me I can manage, but I certainly know I need an instructor to show me the "Line" for now. It would take seat time for quite a while for me to feel confident on road courses.

With that said I think I can get into the 16's next time I go back to Lightning, seeing it for one more weekend (with good instructor) would seal the deal. Not that the times matter right now, but it is nice to know you are improving each time out, that is what I try to do Autoxing and on the track. Going to teach my son that attitude if he wants to start racing, ish takes time and work.

 

^however I prefer hitting my rev limiter in 4th rather than in 2nd.

 

I definitely agree a lot of what you learn in autox carries over. Looking ahead was a big one for me. Weight transfer was also a big thing I learn at autox that I was able to translate to track. However, with the much higher speed of track, a minor "error" can is more costly, philosophically speaking.

Whether its autox, track, or hardpark, I'd rather be doing something rather than sitting on my *** at home. Driving 4 hours to hardpark at Limerock next weekend. COme at meh!