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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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So whens the next local Pittsburgh meet?

Isn't there a car show saturday out in Monroeville?
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Morse
Engines have been run to well over 600wheel on 100% stock including cams and stuck together, granted they will never say that they lasted 1000 miles but the stresses of 500wheel should last a while. The car is being built right just with stock internals. I'm also not spinning to 8500rpm with the cams and spring kit only stock revlimit. The revs is whats going to give this thing an early death before the rods bend other than running to much torque.
just because they did 600 hp on one dyno pull doesnt mean they beat on the car on the track at 600hp...seriously ...if you believe that you are really naive.....

yeah the stock internals are built right (for being a stock evo)....wtf is the difference whether its revs, torque or whatever the end result is still the same...cant see how planning for a motor to blow fits into a tight budget...
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Evol.ved
So whens the next local Pittsburgh meet?

Isn't there a car show saturday out in Monroeville?
yeah 4-9 monroeville convention center
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by xsolowx
just because they did 600 hp on one dyno pull doesnt mean they beat on the car on the track at 600hp...seriously ...if you believe that you are really naive.....

yeah the stock internals are built right (for being a stock evo)....wtf is the difference whether its revs, torque or whatever the end result is still the same...cant see how planning for a motor to blow fits into a tight budget...


Your not getting at what I'm saying.... the car is built right from the stand point of every support mod is of at least fair quality the motor gets done it will be a decent packaged car. My point about the what 650whp 100% stock engines holding are the fact that it can run to that point but the stresses are exponentially less at only 500. Plus there is a handfull of people running around at that number. Also, I can't see how you are skipping over the part about the car being a 93 pump car as well, that was the purpose with the dw 1300's or I would have just went ID2000s if it was strictly an e85 car.

Between 420-440whp pump and 500 e85 it should be lasting.


Also with the help/advice of all the evotelligent individuals in the burgh it should be a pretty good car.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Morse
Your not getting at what I'm saying.... the car is built right from the stand point of every support mod is of at least fair quality the motor gets done it will be a decent packaged car. My point about the what 650whp 100% stock engines holding are the fact that it can run to that point but the stresses are exponentially less at only 500. Plus there is a handfull of people running around at that number. Also, I can't see how you are skipping over the part about the car being a 93 pump car as well, that was the purpose with the dw 1300's or I would have just went ID2000s if it was strictly an e85 car.

Between 420-440whp pump and 500 e85 it should be lasting.


Also with the help/advice of all the evotelligent individuals in the burgh it should be a pretty good car.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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I don't know, Eric. I just have a really tough time seeing you being able to run 500whp numbers RELIABLY on a non-aggressive tune with a stock motor. That would spell danger to me on the 4G63, and there are many documented failure threads on stock motors pushed past 400wtq. Also, the 4G63 platform has been beat to death and it hides no secrets. You are venturing into a new motor platform that has only been used in these cars for two years now, and want to push the power levels of the motor to almost twice their output. You want to push 450wtq (around there) plus 500hp on a car that will only see track use, meaning only when it is really pushed to the limits.

Since everyone is posting funny relevant pictures:


I am not meaning to beat a dead horse or put you down or anything, but I would listen to what so far everyone on the boards here has told you. It is just not a good idea to do this many bolt ons then rely on the stock motor to just put up with all that abuse. Especially if you spend all your money on the "build" for bolt ons, then your motor ****s the bed and what happens? Your out of a car and just ruined the crank and block core charge, so you are going to spend even more money... I just don't get why you would do that...

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Now that's a better post!

Eric, I wish you the best with your plans. Your young right? Go take some of that budget and go travel the world, sail the seven seas, or something, it will mean alot more to
you in a few years then building a car. You have a long life ahead of you to do stupid stuff like that.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Also, give this a look through and read some of the comments:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-thread-5.html

There are quite a few horror stories in there. At least 3 that blew with just a CBE and a few minor bolt ons and a conservative tune. The fuel relays were replaced and everything, but I guess the rods or bolts just snapped...
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jerdeitzel
Now that's a better post!

Eric, I wish you the best with your plans. Your young right? Go take some of that budget and go travel the world or something, it will mean alot more to
you in a few years then building a car. You have a long life ahead of you to do stupid stuff like that.

The world's over rated.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xsolowx
if my car looked like that it would make my decision making process much easier....that is if im not in it at the time, ouch!
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Look what showed up today. Full Race Pro Stock manifold. The coating looks so nice, I'm not sure I want to install it. haha

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
Look what showed up today. Full Race Pro Stock manifold. The coating looks so nice, I'm not sure I want to install it. haha


take out an insurance policy on that thing.......that is some money right thurrr
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
Look what showed up today. Full Race Pro Stock manifold. The coating looks so nice, I'm not sure I want to install it. haha
that would make a very nice ornamental piece for your coffee table.
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