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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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IMO..... no doubt i might been tuned by robbie. But i put money on it that that engine was not built there. i know for a fact that they refuse to install stock pickups and also that thing has stock rods also. but is just a call away
probably was a H and H creation that Epic inherited just by being in the same building.

I'm sure they can fix it.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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lets do it Dan, im still certain you need to ditch that 50trim in the future

Funny thing is I was looking at turbos last night. I was checking out the HTA 3582 and the FP Red. My main problem is I don't want to lose my power band. I like how early my torque comes on. Car feels great.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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The red or black then is what you are wanting.
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Old May 20, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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if you buy a red or a black ill put suger in your tank
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Old May 20, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
The red or black then is what you are wanting.
+1. Ride in mine then make a decision. Best bang for buck out there IMO. There is other proof with pump gas #'s and comparisons with the bigger kits thats been in a closet The FP Black is a nasty turbo Street OR Strip.......
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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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pay 2k for a black and have to sell your whole setup and buy more or sell the 50trim and buy a 6262 or HTA82 that bolts right up.. hmmmmm.. Hard decision
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Old May 20, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SRTRaceR04
Funny thing is I was looking at turbos last night. I was checking out the HTA 3582 and the FP Red. My main problem is I don't want to lose my power band. I like how early my torque comes on. Car feels great.
Originally Posted by Force-Fed Performance
pay 2k for a black and have to sell your whole setup and buy more or sell the 50trim and buy a 6262 or HTA82 that bolts right up.. hmmmmm.. Hard decision
Was responding to the above statement and how he likes how early the torque comes on. If he buys any of the 2 you mentioned he'll lose his early torque range and spend another $320 on injectors assuming he doesnt have 1000's or better already. I also didn't know the car already had a 50 trim kit in it. In that case, I'd sell the 50trim kit and buy the following:

FP Red ported- $1750 shipped
Ported stock exhaust mani- $210 shipped
Ebay o2 - $110 shipped

So, for $2070 shipped your getting ALOT of bang for your buck, plus your able to keep the same injectors and the early torque range you like. If you got 1000's or better for injectors, for $200 more get the FP Black and call it a day. Remember with the tubular manifolds your losing a little torque also but gaining on the topend.

Here is a nice list of people with the stock appearing turbos and keeping that nice powerband you like also:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...os-2010-a.html

SRTRaceR04, if you'd like, I could find some dyno graphs for comparisons next....
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Old May 20, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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he has a stroker, he wont loose much spool

the red will not make much more power than what he has now if any so there is NO point to go that route. the Black is not a bad idea but he could just go bolt on a HTA82 and spool it like you spool a black if not faster and make more power and torque

My suggestion would be ATLEAST a 82

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Old May 20, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Force-Fed Performance
he has a stroker, he wont loose much spool

the red will not make much more power than what he has now if any so there is NO point to go that route. the Black is not a bad idea but he could just go bolt on a HTA82 and spool it like you spool a black if not faster and make more power and torque

My suggestion would be ATLEAST a 82
Now it makes sense. Guess next time I should ask what mods are done first I'm curious what a HTA3586 TS w/a 1.06 ar turbine housing would do on that stroker. Prolly be nasty. But for what hes looking for a 6262 would prolly be perfect for cost and his torque requirements.

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Old May 20, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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These are actually the kind of responses that I was looking for. My engine should take a lot more than I'm currently pushing it to, but no engines last forever when you beat on them. When this one pops it's going to be replaced with a 2.4l.

With the stroker I don't have to worry as much about the lag, but I don't get to rev as high (until I do something with the head of course).

I'm also looking to keep my equal length manifold along with my Tial wastegate. So if I can't use the FP turbos with that manifold (I wasn't sure, but didn't think I could) then that kind of solves that issue right there. Along with the fact that I plan on swapping into a 4.11 final drive I definitely will need more top end.

Right now my mid range is awesome, but my top end is less than stellar. I mean it's good, but it's still something I think I can improve on.

Oh yeah and at National Speed I got free dyno pulls (since they backed my car up into the back of their dyno bay last time I was there). I made 413whp and 373wtq on their dyno. I was actually expecting more, but I figure because of the heat that my numbers would be lower. They were nice enough to rev my car to like 7900 when I clearly wrote 7000 as my limit.

What's the pros and cons of the 82 vs the 6262? And how much is each turbo respectively?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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The 82 is a 35r based turbo while a 6262 is a billet precision with a 62mm compressor. Either one would be a great choice and both are proven. the Precisions are actually cheaper than the HTA's and they also are ceramic ball bearing eliminating the need for water lines to be run to them
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
probably was a H and H creation that Epic inherited just by being in the same building.

I'm sure they can fix it.
It was another shop... i hope they post that up
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg130
It was another shop... i hope they post that up
Was it OMGodspeed.......?
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Old May 21, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Nice day out. Who's tracking it up tonight?
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Old May 21, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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where?
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