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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowboyMR
But i was just giving the posted results from a customer.. We DID NOT tune the car.. And also when another reputable shop (Pruven) has Dynoed almost identically stock, why is there an explanation needed?
The explaination is the Delta as stated by your customers results and the baseline on that dyno is +162 to the wheels with basic EM and some fueling questions. Please dont think Im jumping you Im just saying we might consider this at face value- most notably that dyno measures power in a very questionable way
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
The explaination is the Delta as stated by your customers results and the baseline on that dyno is +162 to the wheels with basic EM and some fueling questions. Please dont think Im jumping you Im just saying we might consider this at face value- most notably that dyno measures power in a very questionable way
Darn, you beat me to the RC dyno picture.. that is awesome!
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry S
Well, claiming that 13 to 1 AFR's on pump is ok and that 11 to 1 on 100 octane is bad for one...

Here's an AFR chart on an evo tuned not long ago on 100 octane.. (not the one that went off the chart rich)

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=56331
I did not claim 13s on pump.. re read post..is says on 116 octane... is that pump now?? Damn i guess that would explain gas price hikes lately?? LOL and 12s on 104 octane. and 11s on pump aka (93-94 octane last time i checked )

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowboyMR
No way.. you would be stupid run 11.6 A/F at Peak HP when running 104.. you would would want more like 12.6 and on like 116 octane 13.6 ...

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Thats why I said you think 11 to 1 AFR is bad on 100 octane...

Originally Posted by SlowboyMR
Yes.. but after peak HP is when that happened and the car began to lose power.. Hince why we need to put injectors and a pump in the car.. so that A/F ratio is pointless to this power rating b/c it was 11.6 at peak HP which was before that A/F increase. That just shows the limitations of the stock fuel system.. yes, i guess over 400 hp is max on stock fuel...lol

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Thats where I got your 13 to 1 AFR is ok because I read that as "that RPM range doesn't matter"...

But i'm going to stop posting on this thread. I really dont think i'm helping things out..

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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the RC dyno owns all
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Shiv,
Very impressive numbers!
Since you noted it was a stock turbo w/10.5 hotside I am assuming that it is not an '05. What model year is this car?
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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shiv ... my question regarding what you have cooked up for the MR still stands.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Nice numbers. Im about to make a trip to the see Andrew at the dyno. I hope i got me one of them factory freaks too.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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SBR,

You making fun of us for not having an AWD to try and give your shop some credibility is nothing short of freaking hilarious to me. The reason we have no AWD dyno is they didn't even make them back when I bought mine. So if you being a relatively new shop (compared to how long we have been doing this) and owning an AWD dyno makes you "great" so be it.

Tuning on or crappy 2wd dyno still has kept us faster than anything you have or ever will build.

Thanks,

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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
SBR,

You making fun of us for not having an AWD to try and give your shop some credibility is nothing short of freaking hilarious to me. The reason we have no AWD dyno is they didn't even make them back when I bought mine. So if you being a relatively new shop (compared to how long we have been doing this) and owning an AWD dyno makes you "great" so be it.

Tuning on or crappy 2wd dyno still has kept us faster than anything you have or ever will build.

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David Buschur
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That is going to change real fast... b/c we know you never spent 100k on a race car .. Besides, your cars run your motors right??? well you dont even build your own. .Wakeman Auto or whatever their name is does them.. nice job!! at least we build our own stuff :-) incuding machining them with our in house machine shop. guess we will see you in NHRA this year. We have taken two years to build this car, b/c customer cars come first ;-)

we may be newer than you, but we are alot bigger than you and have better customer service from everything i have heard from our customers and yours. Besides its you, your wife and some other guy.. oh yea Tym Switzer left, I guess thats why you havent come out with really anything new huh? I have past Bushur employees asking for jobs..( and they say the same stuff about you as your customers :-/ )

And i wasnt making fun of you for the 2wd dyno, just using that as a reason to show you to hold off and wait to jump into threads blasting right away.

PS... can we all just get along???


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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LuxuryBroker
shiv ... my question regarding what you have cooked up for the MR still stands.

everything that works on a regular 05 works on my MR. check this forum, there's several MR dyno plots for various stages.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Homeboy, I think you need to give it a rest.

David Buscher and Shiv have WAY more credability than you will for a long time to come.

This is Shiv's thread anyways, about Shiv's tuning, and his results.


So let's get back on topic.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowboyMR
That is going to change real fast... b/c we know you never spent 100k on a race car .. Besides, your cars run your motors right??? well you dont even build your own. .Wakeman Auto or whatever their name is does them.. nice job!! at least we build our own stuff :-) incuding machining them with our in house machine shop. guess we will see you in NHRA this year. We have taken two years to build this car, b/c customer cars come first ;-)
we may be newer than you, but we are alot bigger than you and have better customer service from everything i have heard from our customers and yours. Besides its you, your wife and some other guy.. oh yea Tym Switzer left, I guess thats why you havent come out with really anything new huh? I have past Bushur employees asking for jobs..( and they say the same stuff about you as your customers :-/ )
And i wasnt making fun of you for the 2wd dyno, just using that as a reason to show you to hold off and wait to jump into threads blasting right away.
PS... can we all just get along??
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Not sure what the 100K being spent on a race car means, that's about what our tube chassis car cost, what does it have to do with anything? Any tube chassis car is going to cost about the same. I build every engine that leaves here, we don't do the machine work nor have I ever claimed we did. Wakeman Auto does the machine work, I do all assembly. That would make it our motor. You imply stupid things.
I have never run an NHRA sanctioned race, while you are poking around coming up with non-factual information you should have looked into that. Build a Pro Class car and talk, run a number and then talk. We built the first RWD, were the first in the 8's, first in the 7's, what are you going to do first? Nothing, we broke the ground for clowns like yourself to come and do all the things you can do now. It's not bragging, just facts.
I don't know or care how big your shop is, I know what we do/provide here and although you may be cheaper that is all you are. Undercutting everyone's pricing to get sales doesn't make you better it makes you a *****.
There are 8 guys working here full time. You information once again sucks. We have developed more new parts since Tym left here than we did in the time before.
I have two past employees, one lives in Maine the other still in Ohio. Everyone else that has ever worked for me still works here. Tym has his own shop, hated you guys when he worked here so I know he isn't asking. The guy in Maine you can have.

Basically, let's just fist fight.

David Buschur
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyRedEVO
Homeboy, I think you need to give it a rest.

David Buscher and Shiv have WAY more credability than you will for a long time to come.

This is Shiv's thread anyways, about Shiv's tuning, and his results.


So let's get back on topic.
I have no problem with Vishnu at all.. Actually talked with David (Vishnu) personally on the phone today for a extended period of time.. Great guy.. we are all in this for the R&D and making more power.. we ask questions to learn more and do more. Blatenly blasting on the post is out of line and helps no one on here i dont care who you are .. i was in no way trying to hijack the thread just offering info we have had.. **cowers**

and agree to lets get back on topic!!!

Thanks for the time
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