It will work with AI...Shiv mentions in this thread it will work with methanol, so I'm assuming it will work.

 

ok, but by work i mean will it recognize the boost in octane and drop in intake temps on its own 100%??

also, does this mean we will no longer need separate maps for race and pump fuel, ect? and will we be able to set our boost level and the xede work the a/f, timing, ect around it or will it fluctuate our boost levels?(to a certain extent i know, im not asking if we can run 26psi on pump fuel)

thanks

 

I'm sure Shiv will step in if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that you need a baseline map for the active tuning to work off of. You'll have a baseline for 91 and then a baseline for 100 (for example). The active tuning works from there.

 

gotcha, so i would def need a baseline tune for the meth....

still wondering about the boost though

 

ooooopss..delete

 

A baseline map is still needed, because the system works within an authority range.

Jeff, I am not sure I understand your question. Can you please restate it?

 

He wants to know if the boost is a part of the adaptive software, i.e. will it go up and down as timing is being adjusted. Adaptive boost control

I believe the answer is no as of now.

 

Remember the National Aerospace plane project? Good way to cover work on the real project. "Aurora"

Anyway the fastest man made object is the voyager space probe.

 

yeah, thats pretty much it.

 

I was under the impression you didn't need a baseline map for race gas as it would adapt to from a baseline map for pump gas. So alky could be adapted from a baseline pump gas map as well? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

EDIT: but if the boost was not adaptive you would have to increase it manually?

 

So if I understand this correctly. If I buy the v390 package w/xede, I would need to upload the base map for this package and the autotune would work its magic from that point on? From that point a custom tune base map would improve the results?

 

How long does a wideband O2 last before it dies/wears out?

 

Good question......It really depends on the use the car is getting, short runs in the car will make the sensor go out quicker also race gas will kill a sensor a lot quicker than if just pump gas is used...
When a wideband starts to go off it will start to read leaner...this being said I would assume the car would richen up to compensate with the adaptive tuning installed..

 

well, after reading all 20 pages I will definately be going with the v390 package deal. Can I run hks 280 cams with this package? shiv you da man, I loved the custom tune you did on my wrx.

 

You will need a custom map for the autotune to work off of, so you will need a map for pump, a map for pump w/ alchy, and/or a map for race. The Xede only stores two maps so you'll have to decide which setups you want. If you have AI you don't really need a race gas map IMO unless you road race, since agressive AI tuning will drain you fuel supply very quickly in a road race scenario.

In short, you should get your car tuned with straight pump, and then on pump with alchy. Set up a toggle switch to switch between maps. The adaptive software will optimize whichever map is in use for best performance.

The autotune capability of the Xede will not give you a huge performance gain if you throw in race gas with your pump map loaded for a couple reasons. First, like Dustin said the autotune works within an "authority range" meaning there are pre-programed limits to how far it can push the timing advanced. Also, your boost levels are pre-set in the tune and are not altered by the autotune setup. So basically, the Xede will only realize that you're getting less knock on the race than the pump, push the timing to it's "authority range" limit, and leave the boost and AFR the same as what is pre-programmed. However, we know that more boost and a leaner AFR are possible on race gas, so running race gas on the pump map is leaving a lot of power on the table to be had.

- Steve