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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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It has been mentioned in this thread that the total setup will cost 1420 including the Vishnu Approved wideband. Your AEM might work, but the software is not written for it and calibration could be a huge issue.

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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dambit! i jsut got the wideband before this thread came up!!!!!!

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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^^ sell your wideband. You should be able to get decent $$$ for an AEM.

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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*Around 1420.* We have not decided on the final price yet, as we are still waiting to hear back on the final bids for a few things.

Originally Posted by SuperHatch
It has been mentioned in this thread that the total setup will cost 1420 including the Vishnu Approved wideband. Your AEM might work, but the software is not written for it and calibration could be a huge issue.

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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the cheaper the better
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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not even a ballpark figure??? need to start saving my pennies you know...
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
*Around 1420.* We have not decided on the final price yet, as we are still waiting to hear back on the final bids for a few things.
Sorry, AROUND 1420...
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
*Around 1420.* We have not decided on the final price yet, as we are still waiting to hear back on the final bids for a few things.
Dustin the $1420 price is for those that don't have the Xede, right?
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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I though shiv mentioned in his post, it's about $400. for the setup. So $1420. includes the Xede sounds about right.
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Dustin the $1420 price is for those that don't have the Xede, right?
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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If the new software can eliminate the o2 CEL from running catless or hi-flow, can we not just completely eliminate the 2nd o2 sensor and run the wideband in that pre-existing bung? It is my understanding that the second o2 sensor serves no purpose other than to tell if the cat is working and give a CEL if it is not...so with this CEL problem eliminated, the 2nd o2 sensor should be of no use. right?

I just dont know if that bung is in a good place for the wideband sensor
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Whenever I throw the WB in my car, I drop it in where the 2nd 02 usually goes. I have a test pipe and its far enough back from the turbo for decent life as well.
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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There are other management systems with built-in rear O2 sims, but whether an internal or external sim is used, a wideband can replace the rear O2 without a problem *if* you don't have a cat. Short of that, just spend the $$ to have a bung welded at the back of the downpipe and you can run a wideband whether you have a test pipe or not.

On that note, regarding which wideband(s) can/will be used, why wouldn't it be possible to have a small database of tables for various sensor Volts = AFR (or let end users enter this data for their WB). How different can a Bosch sensor really be whether it's used on an AEM or Innovative controller? A user defineable offset in the software for level matching measured voltage on the signal wire coming in to what the XEDE is reading would be all the calibration it would need then, no? The AEM EMS is setup just like that for the UEGOs.

Let me say that I've used a variety of management on my Evo over the years (SAFC, EMS, UTEC, ECU+) and if the autotune is for real, I may need to add another to the list
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackEVO
There are other management systems with built-in rear O2 sims, but whether an internal or external sim is used, a wideband can replace the rear O2 without a problem *if* you don't have a cat. Short of that, just spend the $$ to have a bung welded at the back of the downpipe and you can run a wideband whether you have a test pipe or not.

On that note, regarding which wideband(s) can/will be used, why wouldn't it be possible to have a small database of tables for various sensor Volts = AFR (or let end users enter this data for their WB). How different can a Bosch sensor really be whether it's used on an AEM or Innovative controller? A user defineable offset in the software for level matching measured voltage on the signal wire coming in to what the XEDE is reading would be all the calibration it would need then, no? The AEM EMS is setup just like that for the UEGOs.

Let me say that I've used a variety of management on my Evo over the years (SAFC, EMS, UTEC, ECU+) and if the autotune is for real, I may need to add another to the list
Here, here! I really don't want to give up my Bosch based PLX...
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by asasin79
does this mean anything...i'll buy the LC-1 if i have to, but want to be sure my current setup isn't going to work.

that's why i posted this but nobody answered.
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