Does 2d Kit Require Both Maf And Boost Signal Or Can It Just Run Off Boost?

 

If you only hook up boost I would guess the pump will start at onset (10%) and will just stay there at 10% power, no mater what the psi, waiting for MAF hz

 

I am a Snow performance user and have had good results with both set ups.
I would like to clarify a few misconceptions. Variable inj. @ 50% pump voltage is 50% psi. app.75% flow and not atomized as well as max psi. Simple install.

I removed the controller and went with 2 psi switches set @ 10# and 20#. Max psi
only. 50% flow volume and 100% flow volume atomized extreemely well. Max boost over the past year has been 27# spike holding 25# to 7000. Turbo is a White Rabbit from FP soon to be replaced with the Evo Green model. 91 pump with 2 375cc jets on 80/20 mix. I plan to up the mix to 100%. stock inj. are at low 80%dc now. I plan to quit at 90%dc. Head studs are stock. The 375 jets are flowing 430cc each @ 100#DP. combustion temp is a little bit low but no loss of power over the old smaller jet set up. I know this because the bpr7es plugs will give me a little misfire after about 4000 miles of use. The old smaller jet set up would go 5000 miles no misfire and get replaced with the engine oil as part of maintenance. This is part of the reason for the 100% mix. I am going back to the 225/375 jets. This will net 700cc and gives me a 35% alky to fuel ratio. I plan to proceed with caution here as bad things could happen in a hurry. I am on a custom flash w/stock mass.
I hope you guys enjoy this post I'll report back with results when my Turbo gets here.

Todd
03 evo

 

keep us updated...

 

i purchased a snow kit and so did a bunch of my friends. i have yet to hook mine up but all of my friends have had leak problems. one had it leaking into his upper intercooler pipe when the car was off. i was told that the new evo kit had a check valve installed already so it shouldnt leak there. all my other friends had leaks at the fittings to the controller. is snow performance doing anything to fix this problem? im kinda affraid to hook mine up because of the problems my friends had. also the same guy that had leaking into the intercooler pipe also had problems with his safe injection and had to diconnect that to get it to work.

 

Why didn't you guys give me a call when you were having these issues, if all of you are having the same problem I would suspect it was an install issue over anything else, its to big of a coincidence for all of you to have the exact same issues. Give me a call and will get this taken care of...

 

pm sent...

 

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Hey Ryan, what's up man? My problem with the Snow kit was pretty wierd. I think my leaking problem was due to running 100% meth. As soon as I switched to a 50/50 mix with water - the leaking problem was totally gone. My theroy is that the 100% meth was causing the one way check valve in the nozzle to not fully seat when no pressure was applied. I think the 50/50 mix is letting the valve seat and work like it's supposed to while not under pressure from the pump.
I know the meth was leaking into the intake pipe when the car sat. The longer the car sat, the worse the start up would be. I would have to crank the engine for a few seconds before it would finally start. After it started, the engine sounded horrible and would have a hard time getting to warm-up RPM. The engine also vibrated badly. My engine would run like that for a few seconds and then gradually the RPM's would come up to normal, the vibration would go away, and the car would idle like normal. Once I switched to 50/50 - the problem was gone. The EVO now starts every time like it should with no complications. The Snow kit works like a champ. Right now I don't have the Safe Injection but will be getting it soon. I must say that I am totally happy with the Snow kit.

 

glad to hear...I will drop you some feedback right now...

 

I guess I should post this up so you can see the other side of methanol injection if you are not careful. I have been using the snow performance product on various vehicles that I have owned including my 3000GT . Also one of my friends was using methanol injection on his 06 ford 350. As luck would have it he sold his truck and I grabbed his methanol kit for my evo. After installation of my to4e 60 from turbonetics I took the car to the track (it had the methanol kit on it) first pass ever in this car it trapped 117 with a ****ty 2.67 60 foot (don't ask). this was at 24 psi of boost. So I get back into the staging lanes again...(my roomate was driving) the car nosed off just before the 1/8th mile.. basically what happened was the red line that comes out of the pump and into my nozzle came offf ..I ended up melting a spark plug in # 4 but the real tale of all of this is that ever since that day .. my car has had a loud ticking sound... After replacing the lifters with the JAM ones. the noise is still there ... So using a stethescope I can with some certainty say that I now have a wrist pin rattle.
I just figured that I would post this up for some of guys so you can hear the bad side of things if something lets go when running meth.
PS my car does not have the safe injection set up on it..

sorry for the long post but here is a question for you guys... You say that your starting Psi is 4 and ending is 10 psi, don't you think you are wasting methanol ? because isn't methanol there to essentially remove knock ? and I am sure that a lot of your cars are in no way knocking at the above levels...
I am running 15 psi start and 22 psi ending, the reason I picked 15 was because at that value I start to see knock with my car.
thanks for the space and reading about my story
w

 

sorry to hear about your story but not sure how the line popped out unless it wasn't properly installed, that is where most of the issues with methanol derive from...meth is not only used to remove knock, its also used to run more timing and boost, i like to start spray at 8 psi and ramp up to 15psi on stock turbo applications...

 

thanks for the response..
I have never had a problem with the line before coming out of the pump, and that has been well over a year and half of using the snow performance system on a variety of cars, so what I did now for the evo was eliminate the push style "red line" and actually used steel braided line with an fittings coming out of the pump going to the nozzle.
One more question, I am using the 625cc nozzle, I have even turned the pump pressure up a little bit (with the allen head screwon the top of the pump)if I boost any higher than 25 I start to experience knock ... I really do not understand where the problem is because don't the people with the larger turbos than what I am running are in 27 psi to 30 psi boost range ? Also my timing is set at 17 psi peak so there isn't that much timing in the car.
Do you have any suggestions ultimate cc for me
I can PM you a mod list if you have the time any assistance would be appreciated , because I figured for what modifications are on my vehicle I should be making more power.
thank you
w

 

yea thats pretty wierd if you have never had that issue before on previous cars but we will probably never know what the true cause was but atleast you won't have that problem again, well there are some larger turbos that run less boost than others, like my small tme 16g I run 21psi on pump and 26psi on meth injection but add nitrous to the field and I hit 34psi occasionally...what are your afr's like, do you happen to have a log that you could send me, if not buy the ecuflash cable for 90 and do some pulls and log it and we can go from there...

 

ok,
afr are targeted at 11.5, utilizing a PMAS airmeter (karmen to voltage convertor) and ecuflash. I will see if I have one of my logs saved and I will send it to you .