Project 11.49 (stock turbo) to be built in AZ!
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Project 11.49 (stock turbo) to be built in AZ!
Hello Left Coast!! i gotta new project coming up. should take about a year to complete. yes 11.49 is not a new time for an evo, but there isn't a SINGLE evo in AZ running that time on the STOCK turbo. the air in phx is stagnant (being a valley) so cars don't run so good there. anyway, here is a rundown list of parts i will be installing while my car is there in AZ:
280 cams(11.8), cam gears, valve springs, Ti retainers, valve guides, turbo outlet pipe, exh manifold, injectors, fuel rail, fuel press reg.,head bolts, port/polished head, engine damper, master cylinder brace, radiator, high press rad. cap, i/c piping, CDI system, motor/tranny mounts, intercooler, low temp thermostat (my car has seen interior temps 54.8degress C!!), head gasket, forged pistons, rings, rods, final drive gearing, 6-point roll cage, ECU flash (new tuner ECU flash program coming soon).
the goal is not to do run this time once, but to run it consistently. some will say it can't be done. others will say just buy a turbo kit. why 11.49? it is the lowest time you can run @ Firebird w/out a cage. so i will run 11.49 with no cage, get kicked off, go back next week with a cage & run it again over & over. yes there are cars running this fast already, but very few with a stock turbo, & NONE in AZ.
wish me luck. i will have pics on the entire buildup. i will also reedit & shrink the list until the parts above are gone.
280 cams(11.8), cam gears, valve springs, Ti retainers, valve guides, turbo outlet pipe, exh manifold, injectors, fuel rail, fuel press reg.,head bolts, port/polished head, engine damper, master cylinder brace, radiator, high press rad. cap, i/c piping, CDI system, motor/tranny mounts, intercooler, low temp thermostat (my car has seen interior temps 54.8degress C!!), head gasket, forged pistons, rings, rods, final drive gearing, 6-point roll cage, ECU flash (new tuner ECU flash program coming soon).
the goal is not to do run this time once, but to run it consistently. some will say it can't be done. others will say just buy a turbo kit. why 11.49? it is the lowest time you can run @ Firebird w/out a cage. so i will run 11.49 with no cage, get kicked off, go back next week with a cage & run it again over & over. yes there are cars running this fast already, but very few with a stock turbo, & NONE in AZ.
wish me luck. i will have pics on the entire buildup. i will also reedit & shrink the list until the parts above are gone.
Last edited by housedj; Feb 21, 2006 at 05:50 PM.
What is up man!! This is Carlos, I was there on Dec 4th when Al was tunning your car. First of all, you need to take your car back to the track because you haven't run the car after Al tuned last.
11.49 is a very difficult time to achieve, the fastet Evo known around is topnotchEvo wich runs 11.7@120 putting down 434WHP(2.3l stroker) now he runs 602whp/541tq with the 2.3l stroker and 660whp with NOS but hasn't taking it to the track yet.
I am mentally scheduled for January track time at Firebird in Phoenix on January the 13th. As you mentioned before, the air in AZ valley is too thin.
You are going to set a bench mark on stock turbo, you should take the car to the track more often and do your mods gradually so that you can clearly see your improvements.
I am a track guy, I have seen it all, I have been comparing everyones track times and let me tell you this, running your car in AZ is a loose to loose situation, heat and elevation kills you.
Slowcar and myself run similar times 12.4@110 and 12.4@111 other guys ran also 12.4 with similar mods plus NOS here in Tucson.
The stock STI hardly run 13's at all, most of them are in the low tyo mid 14's in Tucson and a 05 Evo8 with TB ,MBC and CAI average mid 13's in Tucson as well.
If you can manage mid 11's in Phoenix then we must admit your car is very very fast. I also want to reach the limits on the stock turbo.
Good luck with your project and keep us posted. By the way, you should update your signature to your new numbers: 301WHP/340TQ Mustang Dyno
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11.49 is a very difficult time to achieve, the fastet Evo known around is topnotchEvo wich runs 11.7@120 putting down 434WHP(2.3l stroker) now he runs 602whp/541tq with the 2.3l stroker and 660whp with NOS but hasn't taking it to the track yet.
I am mentally scheduled for January track time at Firebird in Phoenix on January the 13th. As you mentioned before, the air in AZ valley is too thin.
You are going to set a bench mark on stock turbo, you should take the car to the track more often and do your mods gradually so that you can clearly see your improvements.
I am a track guy, I have seen it all, I have been comparing everyones track times and let me tell you this, running your car in AZ is a loose to loose situation, heat and elevation kills you.
Slowcar and myself run similar times 12.4@110 and 12.4@111 other guys ran also 12.4 with similar mods plus NOS here in Tucson.
The stock STI hardly run 13's at all, most of them are in the low tyo mid 14's in Tucson and a 05 Evo8 with TB ,MBC and CAI average mid 13's in Tucson as well.
If you can manage mid 11's in Phoenix then we must admit your car is very very fast. I also want to reach the limits on the stock turbo.
Good luck with your project and keep us posted. By the way, you should update your signature to your new numbers: 301WHP/340TQ Mustang Dyno
my .2c
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Dec 23, 2005 at 09:26 PM.
Nice Mission Statement housedj. I too have a similar goal of hitting mid 11s with a stock turbo. But I think it will be a little easier for me since I got better air in the Northwest =)
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What is up man!! This is Carlos, I was there on Dec 4th when Al was tunning your car. First of all, you need to take your car back to the track because you haven't run the car after Al tuned last.
11.49 is a very difficult time to achieve, the fastet Evo known around is topnotchEvo wich runs 11.7@120 putting down 434WHP(2.3l stroker) now he runs 602whp/541tq with the 2.3l stroker and 660whp with NOS but hasn't taking it to the track yet.
I am mentally scheduled for January track time at Firebird in Phoenix on January the 13th. As you mentioned before, the air in AZ valley is too thin.
You are going to set a bench mark on stock turbo, you should take the car to the track more often and do your mods gradually so that you can clearly see your improvements.
I am a track guy, I have seen it all, I have been comparing everyones track times and let me tell you this, running your car in AZ is a loose to loose situation, heat and elevation kills you.
Slowcar and myself run similar times 12.4@110 and 12.4@111 other guys ran also 12.4 with similar mods plus NOS here in Tucson.
The stock STI hardly run 13's at all, most of them are in the low tyo mid 14's in Tucson and a 05 Evo8 with TB ,MBC and CAI average mid 13's in Tucson as well.
If you can manage mid 11's in Phoenix then we must admit your car is very very fast. I also want to reach the limits on the stock turbo.
Good luck with your project and keep us posted. By the way, you should update your signature to your new numbers: 301WHP/340TQ Mustang Dyno
my .2c
11.49 is a very difficult time to achieve, the fastet Evo known around is topnotchEvo wich runs 11.7@120 putting down 434WHP(2.3l stroker) now he runs 602whp/541tq with the 2.3l stroker and 660whp with NOS but hasn't taking it to the track yet.
I am mentally scheduled for January track time at Firebird in Phoenix on January the 13th. As you mentioned before, the air in AZ valley is too thin.
You are going to set a bench mark on stock turbo, you should take the car to the track more often and do your mods gradually so that you can clearly see your improvements.
I am a track guy, I have seen it all, I have been comparing everyones track times and let me tell you this, running your car in AZ is a loose to loose situation, heat and elevation kills you.
Slowcar and myself run similar times 12.4@110 and 12.4@111 other guys ran also 12.4 with similar mods plus NOS here in Tucson.
The stock STI hardly run 13's at all, most of them are in the low tyo mid 14's in Tucson and a 05 Evo8 with TB ,MBC and CAI average mid 13's in Tucson as well.
If you can manage mid 11's in Phoenix then we must admit your car is very very fast. I also want to reach the limits on the stock turbo.
Good luck with your project and keep us posted. By the way, you should update your signature to your new numbers: 301WHP/340TQ Mustang Dyno
my .2c
as far as the fastest AZ evo goes, Intense was the 1st in autumn 2004 when Saad Saad drove their evo to an 11.69 (forgot mph). next is a guy with a white 8, he ran 11.54 @ 128. Topnotch is now working to get his car(s) faster. go to www.azevos.com to see the video between me & topnotch. not the best run but i won nonetheless. keep in mind my AFR's are 10.2-10.5 as i need a retune.
i do visit the track regularly & i am aware on how to modify a car. my dyno #'s are correct for both cars which were done on a 2000hp AWD Mustang Dyno. it doesn't fluff dyno hp #'s like other local shops are doing (they know who they are...)
Last edited by housedj; Feb 21, 2006 at 05:53 PM.
Originally Posted by housedj
actually we've never met b4. i think you might have met Vinny (evodrifter). he has a yellow '03 w/df hood. the last time Al tuned my car was Nov. 2004.
as far as the fastest AZ evo goes, Intense was the 1st in autumn 2004 when Saad Saad drove their evo to an 11.69 (forgot mph). next is Jay of Mynes Performance with his evo 8 misfiring in 4th gear, he ran 11.54 @ 128. Topnotch is now working with Jay to get his car(s) faster. go to www.azevos.com to see the video between me & topnotch. not the best run but i won nonetheless. keep in mind my AFR's are 10.2-10.5 as i need a retune.
i do visit the track regularly & i am aware on how to modify a car. my dyno #'s are correct for both cars which were done on Mynes 2000hp AWD Mustang Dyno. he doesn't fluff dyno hp #'s like other local shops are doing (they know who they are...)
as far as the fastest AZ evo goes, Intense was the 1st in autumn 2004 when Saad Saad drove their evo to an 11.69 (forgot mph). next is Jay of Mynes Performance with his evo 8 misfiring in 4th gear, he ran 11.54 @ 128. Topnotch is now working with Jay to get his car(s) faster. go to www.azevos.com to see the video between me & topnotch. not the best run but i won nonetheless. keep in mind my AFR's are 10.2-10.5 as i need a retune.
i do visit the track regularly & i am aware on how to modify a car. my dyno #'s are correct for both cars which were done on Mynes 2000hp AWD Mustang Dyno. he doesn't fluff dyno hp #'s like other local shops are doing (they know who they are...)
I am very glad that you were able to bring some good info, I was aware of topnotchevo being one of the fastest around AZ, I did not know about Jay's Evo or the other guys(Intense) running in the 11's.
WOTM in Phoenix suppose to have a low 11sec black project Evo as well but I think it is a car for show and sponsorship..
I highly encourage you on your stock turbo project, I also want to see how capable is the stock turbo, my difference is that I wouldn't open the engine at all, just basic bolt ons.
Please e-mail me whenever you come to Tucson, we go to the track ALL THE TIMES. Not a single 11 sec Evo have been seen around here. There is a couple of guys in town getting their Evo beef up for possible 11sec runs.
Anyway, thanks for the info. By the way, your 13.0@107 is a a nice track time considering your whp/tq.
Carlos
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I'm very skeptical, but I look forward to the attempt. The first mod you need to do is the driver mod. Those 1.8s won't cut it, and it will be much harder to cut 1.6 60's with well over 400whp, which is what it will require to hit 11.49, and which is very hard to do on the stock turbo.
Just remember, you will need to trap 120+ to accomplish this, and only Curt Brown has gone over 120mph on the stock turbo unless there's some I've never heard of. Sean Glazar of Extreme Motorsports (1000whp AWD Talon) has his going 11.59s and 119.5mph with AEM EMS, but this is at sea level in 50-degree weather. To make another 20whp with only a flash tune is going to be...borderline impossible.
Carlos, tell Sergio to send me that awesome DVD from the drag strip! I want to see my 1.66 60' on that 12.000 run!
Just remember, you will need to trap 120+ to accomplish this, and only Curt Brown has gone over 120mph on the stock turbo unless there's some I've never heard of. Sean Glazar of Extreme Motorsports (1000whp AWD Talon) has his going 11.59s and 119.5mph with AEM EMS, but this is at sea level in 50-degree weather. To make another 20whp with only a flash tune is going to be...borderline impossible.
Carlos, tell Sergio to send me that awesome DVD from the drag strip! I want to see my 1.66 60' on that 12.000 run!
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Sorry for the confusion, yes you are correct indeed, I mistakingly thought that you were Evodrifter(Vinny) becuase I saw him on Dec th 4th at Vividracing when Al was visiting.
I am very glad that you were able to bring some good info, I was aware of topnotchevo being one of the fastest around AZ, I did not know about Hay's Evo or the other guys running in the 11's.
I highly encourage you on your stock turbo project, I also want to see how capable is the stock turbo, my difference is that I wouldn't open the engine at all, just basic bolt ons.
Please e-mail me whenever you come to Tucson, we go to the track ALL THE TIMES. Not a single 11 sec Evo have been seen around here. There is a couple of guys in town getting their Evo beef up for possible 11sec runs.
Anyway, thanks for the info. By the way, your 13.0@107 is a a nice track time considering your whp/tq.
Carlos
I am very glad that you were able to bring some good info, I was aware of topnotchevo being one of the fastest around AZ, I did not know about Hay's Evo or the other guys running in the 11's.
I highly encourage you on your stock turbo project, I also want to see how capable is the stock turbo, my difference is that I wouldn't open the engine at all, just basic bolt ons.
Please e-mail me whenever you come to Tucson, we go to the track ALL THE TIMES. Not a single 11 sec Evo have been seen around here. There is a couple of guys in town getting their Evo beef up for possible 11sec runs.
Anyway, thanks for the info. By the way, your 13.0@107 is a a nice track time considering your whp/tq.
Carlos
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I'm very skeptical, but I look forward to the attempt. The first mod you need to do is the driver mod. Those 1.8s won't cut it, and it will be much harder to cut 1.6 60's with well over 400whp, which is what it will require to hit 11.49, and which is very hard to do on the stock turbo.
Just remember, you will need to trap 120+ to accomplish this, and only Curt Brown has gone over 120mph on the stock turbo unless there's some I've never heard of. Sean Glazar of Extreme Motorsports (1000whp AWD Talon) has his going 11.59s and 119.5mph with AEM EMS, but this is at sea level in 50-degree weather. To make another 20whp with only a flash tune is going to be...borderline impossible.
Carlos, tell Sergio to send me that awesome DVD from the drag strip! I want to see my 1.66 60' on that 12.000 run!
Just remember, you will need to trap 120+ to accomplish this, and only Curt Brown has gone over 120mph on the stock turbo unless there's some I've never heard of. Sean Glazar of Extreme Motorsports (1000whp AWD Talon) has his going 11.59s and 119.5mph with AEM EMS, but this is at sea level in 50-degree weather. To make another 20whp with only a flash tune is going to be...borderline impossible.
Carlos, tell Sergio to send me that awesome DVD from the drag strip! I want to see my 1.66 60' on that 12.000 run!
Warrtalon,
Sergio just left to Spain for vacation to see his family, he just called me today before he board the airplane.
Don't worry, I know Sergio very very well, this guys specialty and job is about editing Videos and other cool stuffs in the Army. He promised me the video is going to be incredible. He not only has your video buy also he was putting a huge file of all the DC area Evos.
He is a perfeccionist (he likes everything perfect), people will remember Sergio for his skills making professional videos, that is what he has been doing for years in the Army, you wouldn't be dissapointed.
I know for a fact he got the proper cable for the computer and that he was working on finishing. He should be in touch with me everyday over the internet and or phone.
I will remind him to see if he can send it to you. Take my word for it, he never fails, people will love this special CD is is making. He says that your run 12.00 looks awsome.
He should be crusing at 600mph as we speak. I will ask him as soon as I can ..
Carlos
Sergio just left to Spain for vacation to see his family, he just called me today before he board the airplane.
Don't worry, I know Sergio very very well, this guys specialty and job is about editing Videos and other cool stuffs in the Army. He promised me the video is going to be incredible. He not only has your video buy also he was putting a huge file of all the DC area Evos.
He is a perfeccionist (he likes everything perfect), people will remember Sergio for his skills making professional videos, that is what he has been doing for years in the Army, you wouldn't be dissapointed.
I know for a fact he got the proper cable for the computer and that he was working on finishing. He should be in touch with me everyday over the internet and or phone.
I will remind him to see if he can send it to you. Take my word for it, he never fails, people will love this special CD is is making. He says that your run 12.00 looks awsome.
He should be crusing at 600mph as we speak. I will ask him as soon as I can ..
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Dec 23, 2005 at 11:39 PM.
Yes, my skepticism includes your location-related hindrances...elevation/heat. I would be skeptical of 11.49 at sea level with 30 degree temps, so doing it in AZ just seems unrealistic.
I would be impressed if you hit 11.79 @ Firebird on the stock turbo. Feel free to impress me.
I would be impressed if you hit 11.79 @ Firebird on the stock turbo. Feel free to impress me.
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Yes, my skepticism includes your location-related hindrances...elevation/heat. I would be skeptical of 11.49 at sea level with 30 degree temps, so doing it in AZ just seems unrealistic.
I would be impressed if you hit 11.79 @ Firebird on the stock turbo. Feel free to impress me.
I would be impressed if you hit 11.79 @ Firebird on the stock turbo. Feel free to impress me.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Just remember, you will need to trap 120+ to accomplish this, and only Curt Brown has gone over 120mph on the stock turbo unless there's some I've never heard of. Sean Glazar of Extreme Motorsports (1000whp AWD Talon) has his going 11.59s and 119.5mph with AEM EMS, but this is at sea level in 50-degree weather. To make another 20whp with only a flash tune is going to be...borderline impossible.
HouseDJ,
I am still a dreamer, I think I am putting all my cards in top of the table and see what my car can do before I spend more money.
The center of the universe for me right now is to take my car to Firebird and run the car with some 99 OCT VP race gas.
I am hoping to be in the 12 sec flat barrier. I need a few passes to acomplish that. For many months many of my friends asked me to go and take my car to Firebird. My car should pick up 1 or 2 more PSI also.
I am still a dreamer, I think I am putting all my cards in top of the table and see what my car can do before I spend more money.
The center of the universe for me right now is to take my car to Firebird and run the car with some 99 OCT VP race gas.
I am hoping to be in the 12 sec flat barrier. I need a few passes to acomplish that. For many months many of my friends asked me to go and take my car to Firebird. My car should pick up 1 or 2 more PSI also.