Cool - anything would be better that that can that came with the injen - without a doubt made for law enforcement compliance. A lot of people really want a quiet exhuast.

BTW - you loosing that resinator also ? That thing is prob equally restrictive - your car is really going to fly with a free flowing exhaust on it

 

Sorry you dont like my additude.

When i give my opinions about which parts work well and which dont its just my opinion based upon what I have seen on the dyno over the past two years and expereinec in custom tuning and driving over 500 evos. Customers are free to follow my advice or not - its just my opinion. - Example - I see a vent to atmosphere blow off valve like the HKS one which creates terrible driveability issues - I'll tell the customer that I recomend the Forge re-circulating unit.

Some people appreciate it when I comment on some mods they have and take my advice and make a mental note. That is the way its intended. Others, like yourself apparently become offended when I say something like"that TX's bov is a pos, I have never seen one one right on any evo I have tuned" The comment is not intended to insult you - but rather to share my experince.


When tuning the cars - when I see a part of set up which interfears with proper and smooth operation I give my advice on how to fix it along with the tune as my goal is to have all the customers cars run 100%. I only offer sugestions because i want the customer's cars to run perfectly.

With a decent driver your car would run a 11.63 @ 119 in the 1/4 mile as it is - I know this as I used to have my own evo at the same power level as yours - - juts my estimation - if you dont agree take it to the track and find out. I don;t see how you would be bothered by my estimation. So you know, the way I was telling how the cars were running this weekend was by seeing hos fast they would go down the ramp. After seeing two of the cars with alochol injection and full stage 4's and stock turbos struggle to reach 115 - 116 mph (those are 12.4 sec cars) and then seeing yours easily reach 120 - its safe to conclude that its a high 11 second car and that is how I feel after driving it.




Enjoy your car - it was a pleasure to tune

 

Thanks for the support. My personality is what it is. I do rub some people the wrong way from time to time. I am a staight shooter - speak how I feel and speak my mind. I grew up in Queens, NY - so the way I speak may offend some people. My main purpose and responsibility for car tuning is to show up on time - properly tune the cars in a safe and effective manner and provide a good poduct at a fair price. If I don't spend as much effort at trying to cater to the mood of my customers and service their personal needs it is surely becuase I am 100% focused on making sure that each and every tune is done in a safe manner so that we do not experience any engine failures while tuning. Also, I am very careful to focus and concentrate on the vehicles themselves to assure that no vehicle is crashed or damaged in any manner. As long as the car is delivred to the owner with a good, safe and reliable tune - that is the goal of my service. If the customer thinks I am a obnoxious jerk - but he is enjoying the way his car drives, then that is a successful day as well.

BTW - I wanted to say that I really enjoyed Salt Lake - it was a great place for tuning and I appreciate all of your help in chosing that location which was a really fantastic spot. It was very spiritually rewarding to be about that place as I was tuning - really amazing scenery. The air was nice also until the railroad car toxic spill on Sunday morning.

Thanks again guys

 

Zach's car is faster than Rayyyy's!

 

The scary part is that if Zach put the alcohol injection kit on his car it would be pushing at least 500 whp. Back in the early days the RNR turbo kits leaved a bit to be desired - there were many problems so I was kind of apprehnesive about this tune. I am pleased to report that RNR obviously worked out ALL the bugs as this kit was a very VERY good running tubro kit. Not only did it hole perfect boost - it was sized perefctly to the car for pump gas use and not too laggy. I would compare it to the HKS 3037 kit in power and delivery. My estimate is 400 - 425 whp on 91 ocatane with 20 psi. I was pleasantly suprized.

I ran into Zach down town while I was crusing around looking to see if there was any street racing scene on Sunday night (I did not find any) - I asked Zach to do a pull down the road and I was very impressed with the way the car pulled and the sound - (got to love that open dump tube). RNR has come a long way.

Keep in mind that a stage 4 car with a free flowing exhuast makes about 360 - 370 whp on the alcohol kit so ray's car is prob at about 350 whp due to the exhuast.

Seth's car was making about 360 to the wheels - due to a boost leak - it should be good for 375 when that is sorted

 

Hi Scott. I think my new exhaust parts are here. The container is finally here, just need to un-pack it.

 

i like how people guess what horsepower my car is making. i also like how people say "zach's car is faster than ray's car". well it really doesn't matter to me. there is always something faster. if i wanted to build a 700 whp evo i could and would blow away just about anyone. do i care...... NO. i'm not into drag racing. my car is designed for the track/autoxing. you guys wanna prove who's faster doing that, i'll put up money if you guys wanna have a contest. but if not STFU cause i really don't care "who" has the fastest most horsepower evo. i am very happy with how my car drives overall (power, handling, and drivibilty) and really don't care how much power i have. do i want more? i would be lying if i said i didn't. but it has nothing to do with wanting to have more than everyone else. i do this for myself and not to be faster/better than my peers.

 

oh btw whoever said zachs car is faster than mine, i don't doubt it cuz it should but have you ever riden in my car?

 

My car turned out just fine, and even though the only chance I have to say it's fast is how it feels, it certainly feels faster... and it hasn't blown up, which, as we all know, is a good thing for me ... Why is it that every car that tries to race me from a roll is some cheap beater that has MONSTER mods done to it? Wish we were going to Spring Mountain, hopefully good ol' LHM's track will open on time and we'll have an event or two or more there during the summer and early fall But there is one problem, my mind can't stop thinking about cams now... must, not, mod, more....

 

Man there is a lot of whinning and complaining going on in here.

I appreciate direct & honest feedback especially from those with the level of experience of Al. A number of you had complaints. Did you voice those to Al or let him know you weren't interested in his opinion? Probably not. Instead the whining and complaining is saved for the forums.

BTW -- my S2000 is faster than ALL of your Evos! errr... wait a sec ... no it's not ... damn thing is not even running.

BTWW -- put Ray in stock Evo and the rest of us UT clowns in 400 WHP Evos and he'll smoke us all on the track. No, not the pansy a$$ go in a straight line track ... the real track. He is one of the best drivers around. Not quite as good as his friend "man-hands" but still he's damn fast.

ps -- I know, I know, I know ... I'm a douche bag.

 

but at least you're RICH!

 

Ray, are you only changing your can, or are you going to get a complete new exauhst?

 

Here's my take on free flowing exhaust. take it for what its worth. you wanna argue about it? go ahead, i won't.

after switching to the magnaflow can (3" straight thru vs the Injen can 3" reduced down to 2 1/8") the car does flow better. it also runs better up top (rpms). but imo the car suffered noticibly down low. i have a ton more turbo lag whereas b4 i hardly noticed it. i'm sure the overall hps with a free flowing muffler is higher but i'm willing to bet the torque curve has dropped. i definitely noticed between shifts the car lagged a lot more than with the injen can. for drag applications the hp gains are prob worth it but for tracks with twistys where you shift a helluva a lot more i think the low end torque with less lag is important.

so what i have done is made a reducer pipe (3"-2 3/8") to try and create some back pressure. we'll see if that helps my spool. regardless tho, i'm happy cause the injen pipe was too restrictive.

 

i've already changed the can. if i were you i would leave yours alone. if you decide to run more boost then maybe do a swap.

after comparing the two directly with each other, by the seat of the pants the injen felt faster in lower rpms but as the revs move up, the magnaflow felt faster and smoother. but that is on my car. running 24lbs of boost you could hear the restriction but that was only at high rpms. i drove your car after the install to test for leaks and such and yours sounds just fine. just as jakes does too. i wouldn't get into all this craze that the bigger free flowing exhaust are that much more powerful. in your particular app as with jakes, your exhaust as it is is plenty fine. going more free flow, you won't notcie much if anything at all. just my 2 pennies worth.

 

That is an interesting point - the low end spool up and tq is with out a doubt inhanced with more back pressure.

I agree that on cars with stock cams and 20 psi there is little gain with juts changing the muffler - that all make within 6 whp of each other

In fact Buschur is famous for the 6 lbs 6 whp difference between their racing muffler and the magnaflow muffler

The main issue - is that most people will prob not want a very loud and free flowing exhuast as you start to attact more attention from the cops