Thats an option, but I think I will keep the welded in crossmember, and custom mount the rear diff, with custom fabricated brackets and bushings.

One other custom job I need to do is re-manufacturer the outlander rear hub into 4x114.3 to match my front wheels. US Ralliart owners wouldnt need to do that.

So far were looking good now.

I was wondering whether to get the RRM cam and install it whilst im FWD... Does anyone know off hand if you can remove the cam WITHOUT fiddling with the timing pulley/belt?

If I can do that easily I may buy it now.

Also, when I get the RRM turbo, if they change the fuel pump they'll need to supply me with a dual sending pump for the split AWD tank.

 

if you take the cma out you will need to 'fiddle' with the pulley and the belt, unless you get sloopy and tie wrap the belt to the pulley and work the cam

 

I'll do the cam and the head at a later date then. I really want to change the control arm bushings fron and rear to polyurethane though when I do this.

I must find some bushings that fit! Maybe front Evo ones will...

 

alright guys not to burst any bubbles, but the evo in tokyo drift was an evo 8 and had a special center diff that had caped shaft outputs and and no lsd or spider gears to run the front axels! the center diff. was pretty much a prototype that was perfected after its use in the movie and now is a sold performance part, i will have to find the company name that made it but they are here in the states.

ok on the next note Diavlo you are awsome, but there is a tid bit of knowledge i have for you. your doing what i wanted to do before i bought my evo, reason i didnt is im in the military and dont have the time. but i reaserched and found a couple of ways to do it. the way your going is im sorry to say but the hardest of the 4 ways this can be done.
-the first way is like you doing it using the outlander.
-the second way is to use older evo parts from say the 5 and the 6.
-the third way is to use eclipse 2g parts and upgrade them to handle your power, it also is mechanical like you said you want and the wheel base and track are identical, downfall is that some mounting will need fabrication- but if you like building this car it will be easy frabrication.
-the fourth and best way to do this is to just find a recked or totaled evo. i know i know that this sounds alot like "buy an evo" but im not trying to but lets put it this way if most of you think AWD is just AWD then you should sell your mitsu and go buy a wrx! AWD is a complex system of torque distrbution an power, its a clean cut science of max traction.(you know mitsu wouldn't do AWD drive any other way other than to be strong and deadly efficient, look at all these other guys running transversly mounted AWD systems in their make of cars and it sucks comparied to mitsu). in japan they make 19 models using the lancer chasis, this is including specialty veheicles like that for goverment contracts, and every 9th lancer becomes an evo. So that statement tells you that you chasis of your car is the same as mine even though i have a evo. now this doesn't mean that all the holes will be drilled, but it does mean that all the pressed spots will be pressed.
-that way in my opinion and obviously mistsubishi's opinion is the best course of action, you dont want to do all this work and not have a powerful and reliable AWD system. not only that.... you will i think be at an advantage b/c all the stuff that we the evo guys got jipped on like the AYC and the two step Anti-lag system
you could aquire and put on and even run a JDM ecu with minor issues.

 

Yeah I know what your saying - the salvage Evo option is easiest... But Im not trying to create an Evo, just make my car AWD coz I live in Wales - it RAINS everyday and am sick of FWD traction but I love the car otherwise! I think if I really felt that I had to have the best AWD possible I would just buy an Evo. I'll be happy with increased traction and about 250bhp. Then... maybe I'll spend my money on an Evo for sudays!


As far as what im doing goes:

I have an ace up my sleeve though because my mate Carl has a workshop and is able to weld, MIG and TIG fabricate brackets, etc.

So were going the custom route.

We know 100% that the transaxle, transfer, propeller will fit - I've done extensive research and check out my car throughly that it can be done.

The rear suspension 100% can be modified to the outlanders, its exactly the same as the lancer's bar the different crossmember.

The fual tank 100% fits - the outlander FWD fuel tank is the same fittings as the AWD one and both have same fittings as Lancer one.


The differential is the ONE bit that, with the way were doing this (i.e not cutting out the welded crossmember and replacing it with the one with diff mounts on it) will have to be custom installed.

But - we have facilities at hand to fabricate and weld if needed.

Trust me on this one - like with the engine/wiring swap - I can do it, even if it has some custom work that would make others turn away.

Thanks for your input though!

 

Update anyone?

 

Im waiting on parts to arrive.

So far I have all the hardware (transfer, propshaft and rear diff), the fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel sender.

Im waiting on delivery of a huge batch of parts including trailing arms, hubs, bolts, brackets - everything I need basically.

In June I will order the AWD transmission.

...and in July I'm still on track to start the actual work.

I will post pics of the parts as I get them anyhow.

Im also going to convert the rear disk brake to Evo with the Brembo whilst Im at it, and Im considering using a carbon fiber propshaft intended for the Evo, to reduce drivetrain loss.

 

hey man, i'm supporting you on this one. if i have the knowledge, time and money and i would do this in a heartbeat.

everybody can buy an evo or a salvaged evo, but theres only a handful that can do this

good luck dude

 

Since you are converting the rear to brembo, I guess it will be 5 lug in the rear, are you going to convert the front also?

 

I'll keep four lug on the front because I have wilwoods. I dont have much of a choice with the back, Outlander's are all 5 lug and there are no 4 lug hubs for AWD.

 

Uk ralliarts have four lugs?

 

No, we dont have ralliarts - I engine swapped 1.6 > 2.4 so kept my 4 lugs.

 

ahhh ok. i thought you guys have RA that just came with 1.6. dont know much about other countries cars. plus im new here. so i didnt know about your situation. anyways, keep us updated. maybe you should change to the RA lugs, lol.

 

Would it be hard to switch over to 5 lugs on an es or oz rally?

 

The UK lancer is a bit of a mish-mash, it comes with 4 lugs, but has the ralliarts four wheel disk brakes, and numerous other features such as the strut bar.

Anyhow - changing to 5 lug, is simply a case of changing the hub and wheel bearings. I could change the front to 5, but theres no point really. I'll just buy 2 4x114.3 rums and 2 5x114.3 rims.

Im really anxious to get started on this now - I want it done for the summer!