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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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It would be really nice if the mods closed this forum its really a torn in my *** and I'm sure it is for everyone else.

The OP is an extinct species and all we have is ignorance throughout this whole thread.
Don't blame the forum just because you got in trouble.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Don't blame the forum just because you got in trouble.

I meant thread.....
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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I meant thread.....
Fine, don't blame the thread because you got in trouble. The thread is fine.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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It would cost more to make a RA truly perform like a Corvette than it would to just buy a ****ing Corvette.
You mean you think it would, or have you proven this? You seem so sure of yourself. According to chevy.com and mitsu cars.com the difference in base price of the two cars MSRPs is $23,630. That's a lot of coin.

Even with incentives, discounts there is still several thousands of dollars left to play with, but the only way to keep things fair is to talk about MSRPs.

Straightline performrance #s could most certainly be matched for a lot less money. It'll only take a few weeks for AMS or Buschur to prove that.

All that's left is handling. I'm sure a good set of coilovers and tires aren't going to run an RA buyer over 20 grand.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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You mean you think it would, or have you proven this? You seem so sure of yourself. According to chevy.com and mitsu cars.com the difference in base price of the two cars MSRPs is $23,630. That's a lot of coin.

Even with incentives, discounts there is still several thousands of dollars left to play with, but the only way to keep things fair is to talk about MSRPs.

Straightline performrance #s could most certainly be matched for a lot less money. It'll only take a few weeks for AMS or Buschur to prove that.

All that's left is handling. I'm sure a good set of coilovers and tires aren't going to run an RA buyer over 20 grand.
OK fine, you need to get the straight HP of the Corvette. Going from 237 HP to 400 HP won't be easy. Then you need the torque, again, not easy (not a bolt-ons affair). Then you need to cut the weight which means more expenses and compromises. Then you need the handling, again, not easy. You'd also need the transmission, the top speed, etc. They are two completely different kinds of cars. Even Evo owners don't make such ridiculous claims. This is no different than the Civic owners who state they can make a better car than Ferrari for a tenth of the cost, it's not possible.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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you can take your ralliart thats modded to **** with zero reliability... i'll take the factory warranty of the corvette and have you keep up with me..
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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OK fine, you need to get the straight HP of the Corvette. Going from 237 HP to 400 HP won't be easy. Then you need the torque, again, not easy (not a bolt-ons affair). Then you need to cut the weight which means more expenses and compromises. Then you need the handling, again, not easy. You'd also need the transmission, the top speed, etc. They are two completely different kinds of cars. Even Evo owners don't make such ridiculous claims. This is no different than the Civic owners who state they can make a better car than Ferrari for a tenth of the cost, it's not possible.
No one needs to match every specification of the Corvette, thats not the issue. If an RA only needs 350hp to do a better 0-60 or 1/4 mil,so be it, it only matters that it does it, even if its heavier. AWD, hello?

No one is talking about turning a Civic into a Ferrari killer. That's such a tired statement. You say you're open to mod vs stock discussions, but then you say crap like that. So which is it? Is the discussion only valid when its about a car you deem worthy, but stupid when its not? It would take a whole lot more money to bring a stock Civic or Geo Metro up to Enzo capabilities. And I still haven't seen it done yet, so I call BS on any statement analagous to that. But I have seen modded Evos put down super car #'s. An RA is just a diet Evo, Evolite if you will, it'll take a little more money but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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you can take your ralliart thats modded to **** with zero reliability... i'll take the factory warranty of the corvette and have you keep up with me..
And the Corvette's torque that's ****ing everywhere, its brakes, its interior, its handling, its ability get good attention from everyone around it, etc.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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No one needs to match every specification of the Corvette, thats not the issue. It doesn't matter if an RA only needs 350hp to do a better 0-60 or 1/4 mil, only that it doesn't, even if its heavier. AWD, hello?

No is talking about turning a Civic into a Ferrari killer. That's such a tired statment. You say you're open to mod vs stock discussions, but then you say crap like that. So which is it? Is the discussion only valid when you the discussion is about a car you deem worthy, but stupid when its not? It would take a whole lot more money to bring a stock Civic or Geo Metro up to Enzo capabilities. And I still haven't seen it done yet, so I call BS on any statement analagous to that. But I have seen modded Evos put down super car #'s. An RA is just a diet Evo, Evolite if you will, it'll take a little more money but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.
That is the point though, we're talking about performance, not a single 1/4 mile race. You can make a 500$ car run a 10-second 1/4 mile if that's all you want to do but it's hardly in the same league as a Viper that can do it stock. Moreover, I have no problem with stock vs. modified comparisons, but in this case, it's a retarded comparison because it's between a lightly modified Ralliart and a Corvette, there's no contest here. I said that a Ralliart could run the same times as a Corvette but it won't be lightly modified. As a final point, Mitsubishi, the people who make the car (and thus have a vested interest) call the Ralliart a hopped up GTS, not a baby Evo.

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i dont understand people.. they expect that they can modify their car to be a "better" car.. but when **** hits the fan, they get scared that the company won't cover their blown engine because they modded it past the point of reliability...
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
That is the point though, we're talking about performance, not a single 1/4 mile race. You can make a 500$ car run a 10-second 1/4 mile if that's all you want to do but it's hardly in the same league as a Viper that can do it stock.
You don't read posts. It is just that simple.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
You don't read posts. It is just that simple.
Reread what I wrote.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Reread what I wrote.
I did. You should do the same. I'm not talking about just 1/4 mile. I was saying an RA could be built to match all levels of base Corvette performance for less then $23 grand.

I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.

I'm out.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
I did. You should do the same. I'm not talking about just 1/4 mile. I was saying an RA could be built to match all levels of base Corvette performance for less then $23 grand.

I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.

I'm out.
And I'm saying it realistically can't, at least not for the price and with reasonable restrictions (ie. you can't just build an all-out race car). Sure you can have a good performing RA but it won't "beat" a Corvette.



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