Ralliart vs the world
Even with incentives, discounts there is still several thousands of dollars left to play with, but the only way to keep things fair is to talk about MSRPs.
Straightline performrance #s could most certainly be matched for a lot less money. It'll only take a few weeks for AMS or Buschur to prove that.
All that's left is handling. I'm sure a good set of coilovers and tires aren't going to run an RA buyer over 20 grand.
You mean you think it would, or have you proven this? You seem so sure of yourself. According to chevy.com and mitsu cars.com the difference in base price of the two cars MSRPs is $23,630. That's a lot of coin.
Even with incentives, discounts there is still several thousands of dollars left to play with, but the only way to keep things fair is to talk about MSRPs.
Straightline performrance #s could most certainly be matched for a lot less money. It'll only take a few weeks for AMS or Buschur to prove that.
All that's left is handling. I'm sure a good set of coilovers and tires aren't going to run an RA buyer over 20 grand.
Even with incentives, discounts there is still several thousands of dollars left to play with, but the only way to keep things fair is to talk about MSRPs.
Straightline performrance #s could most certainly be matched for a lot less money. It'll only take a few weeks for AMS or Buschur to prove that.
All that's left is handling. I'm sure a good set of coilovers and tires aren't going to run an RA buyer over 20 grand.
OK fine, you need to get the straight HP of the Corvette. Going from 237 HP to 400 HP won't be easy. Then you need the torque, again, not easy (not a bolt-ons affair). Then you need to cut the weight which means more expenses and compromises. Then you need the handling, again, not easy. You'd also need the transmission, the top speed, etc. They are two completely different kinds of cars. Even Evo owners don't make such ridiculous claims. This is no different than the Civic owners who state they can make a better car than Ferrari for a tenth of the cost, it's not possible.
No one is talking about turning a Civic into a Ferrari killer. That's such a tired statement. You say you're open to mod vs stock discussions, but then you say crap like that. So which is it? Is the discussion only valid when its about a car you deem worthy, but stupid when its not? It would take a whole lot more money to bring a stock Civic or Geo Metro up to Enzo capabilities. And I still haven't seen it done yet, so I call BS on any statement analagous to that. But I have seen modded Evos put down super car #'s. An RA is just a diet Evo, Evolite if you will, it'll take a little more money but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.
Last edited by GPTourer; Apr 23, 2009 at 03:01 PM.
And the Corvette's torque that's ****ing everywhere, its brakes, its interior, its handling, its ability get good attention from everyone around it, etc.
No one needs to match every specification of the Corvette, thats not the issue. It doesn't matter if an RA only needs 350hp to do a better 0-60 or 1/4 mil, only that it doesn't, even if its heavier. AWD, hello?
No is talking about turning a Civic into a Ferrari killer. That's such a tired statment. You say you're open to mod vs stock discussions, but then you say crap like that. So which is it? Is the discussion only valid when you the discussion is about a car you deem worthy, but stupid when its not? It would take a whole lot more money to bring a stock Civic or Geo Metro up to Enzo capabilities. And I still haven't seen it done yet, so I call BS on any statement analagous to that. But I have seen modded Evos put down super car #'s. An RA is just a diet Evo, Evolite if you will, it'll take a little more money but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.
No is talking about turning a Civic into a Ferrari killer. That's such a tired statment. You say you're open to mod vs stock discussions, but then you say crap like that. So which is it? Is the discussion only valid when you the discussion is about a car you deem worthy, but stupid when its not? It would take a whole lot more money to bring a stock Civic or Geo Metro up to Enzo capabilities. And I still haven't seen it done yet, so I call BS on any statement analagous to that. But I have seen modded Evos put down super car #'s. An RA is just a diet Evo, Evolite if you will, it'll take a little more money but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.
Last edited by ambystom01; Apr 23, 2009 at 02:42 PM.
i dont understand people.. they expect that they can modify their car to be a "better" car.. but when **** hits the fan, they get scared that the company won't cover their blown engine because they modded it past the point of reliability...
You don't read posts. It is just that simple.
I did. You should do the same. I'm not talking about just 1/4 mile. I was saying an RA could be built to match all levels of base Corvette performance for less then $23 grand.
I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.
I'm out.
I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.
I'm out.
I did. You should do the same. I'm not talking about just 1/4 mile. I was saying an RA could be built to match all levels of base Corvette performance for less then $23 grand.
I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.
I'm out.
I don't care about having a warranty, prestige or same "league" or any of that subjective garbage, just straight performance tests.
I'm out.




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