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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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maybe I'm a little off on my vette prices lol my bad.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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but my point is you can have a very fun car in an RA for 29Kish compared to 40Kish.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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But look at the whole package, everything your $50k gets you, then ask yourself if you're really saving money. IMO, the comparison is silly, just like when the Evo guys start comparing their cars to Ferraris. You can mod the car all you want, but you're not going to get the same package or experience.

How did this Vette vs Ralliart even get started? Really, the Ralliart should be compared to cars such as the new Cobalt SS, MS3, the new Genesis 2.0T (hell, even the V6), BMW 1 series, WRX, Evo/STI, etc, rather than venturing into the league of dedicated sports cars.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
But look at the whole package, everything your $50k gets you, then ask yourself if you're really saving money. IMO, the comparison is silly, just like when the Evo guys start comparing their cars to Ferraris. You can mod the car all you want, but you're not going to get the same package or experience.

How did this Vette vs Ralliart even get started? Really, the Ralliart should be compared to cars such as the new Cobalt SS, MS3, the new Genesis 2.0T (hell, even the V6), BMW 1 series, WRX, Evo/STI, etc, rather than venturing into the league of dedicated sports cars.

i agree man,

it is not half of what the vette is in overall performance but power wise it has the potential to do so at a very fair price.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Vette's are nice, but I bought my RA for a lot more reasons than speed.

Yes, it's cool to see what can be done with an RA in terms of mods, 0-60 1/4 mile times, etc. AMS is doing some great work.

I like the RA for more than speed/potential speed.

The RA is a sedan (read family car), and IMO the coolest sedan on the market in terms of looks, handling, power, performance, etc. (right behind the Evo).

The corvette is a faster sleeker sports car with a huge V8.

Two very different cars. Sports car vs sports sedan. Two very different functions. No way I would drive a vette every day, pick up groceries, take the kids to the doctors, etc.

If I had wanted a strictly "super sports car" I would have bought a GT-R...better than a vette! lol

Yes, mods will make any car faster, and yes a modded RA can beat stock times run by Evo's, Vettes, Camaro's, Mustangs, blah blah blah. All fun stuff, but let's not forget that they are not really designed to run all those mods for an extended period of time either. I have read a lot of posts by Evo owners who tore up their cars, transmissions, clutches, engines, etc. from running mods too hard on their cars. Also, any time you upgrade one componant it places heavier wear on other componants. Running the car hard with mods will end up costing you as much if not more over the course of the cars life as it would have if you had bought the vette (or the GT-R).

Don't get me wrong, I know it's easy to get excited over this car it is an awesome machine and with all the posting about AMS and the work they are doing it has generated a lot of buzz. I have enjoyed seeing what they can do, 12.9 is impressive.

On a side note....

After a week of driving this car I came home and told my wife I was going to have to start taking it easy or I was going to end up killing myself. lol I have toned it way down since then.

The same thing happened to a co-worker of mine a few years back. He bought a brand new WRX when they first hit the market, he had one of the first WRX's to hit the states back in 2001. He drove it for 4-5 years and got rid of it because he couldn't control himself, he had gotten a few tickets and had almost lost control of the car a few times before he realized the same thing. He got rid of it because he was really afraid he was going to kill himself in the car.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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How did this Vette vs Ralliart even get started? Really, the Ralliart should be compared to cars such as the new Cobalt SS, MS3, the new Genesis 2.0T (hell, even the V6), BMW 1 series, WRX, Evo/STI, etc, rather than venturing into the league of dedicated sports cars.
Yeah leave the vettes for the GT-R's, they need something to east for breakfast. lol

Have I mentioned how much I love those new GT-R's.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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I understand what your saying otter, but what we said is lightly modded RA could run with a corvette in a straight line. Yes we know that any car modded can run with any car, thank-you for that information we're well aware. We're also well aware that a Corvette is just an overall better vehicle. It started off as just a comment, "well if you modded the RA it could be close" to which Amby went off on his tangent taking it a step further. Conversation would have been fine otherwise. For the most part we all know our role, RA's are "quick" cars, not fast.
See I hate comments like this, its almost like some of us back pedal when guys like amby come in and sh*t on the Ralliart. RA owners dont have to "know their role", be proud of the car, it's fast. A lot of people like amby who don't own RA's base their info on magazine reviews, and act like it's their own personal knowledge. What do they know really? Being an evo guy, I can tell you that i am pleasantly suprised in what my RA can do. A wider set of wheels, rubber and a good tune (which is within reach of most if not all RA owners) will set this car worlds apart from anything else.

"Don't argue with fools, 'cause people from a distance can't tell who is who."
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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See I hate comments like this, its almost like some of us back pedal when guys like amby come in and sh*t on the Ralliart. RA owners dont have to "know their role", be proud of the car, it's fast. A lot of people like amby who don't own RA's base their info on magazine reviews, and act like it's their own personal knowledge. What do they know really? Being an evo guy, I can tell you that i am pleasantly suprised in what my RA can do. A wider set of wheels, rubber and a good tune (which is within reach of most if not all RA owners) will set this car worlds apart from anything else.
I'm proud of my RA, IMO, it's better than 95% of everything I see on the street on a day to day basis. I love this car, it's the complete package for me.

It's sharp, turns heads all day long. It handles and rides like a dream, and it's got power to spare, plus the wife likes that it's a 4 door. Insurance and monthly payments make it easier to own than the Evo. There is no other sedan I would rather be driving right now.

Sure, I still wish I had an Evo, and I will in about 2 years, but for my first financed car (and no co-signer), it is perfect.
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Sorry for posting that original thread. I only did it because I actually was not left in the dust, which impressed me, and BTW that corvette has over 500 hp, and I didnt get a chance to ask the guy if he had any mods done to it. He had custom rims on hehe. So honestly I really do not see how I could take him even in a stage 2 RA. Maybe with a huge turbo and super tires, and NOS and.... I hope you see where I'm going with this. I was just impressed that my 30k car was not blown away by an 80k+ SPORTS car .
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDriver11421
See I hate comments like this, its almost like some of us back pedal when guys like amby come in and sh*t on the Ralliart. RA owners dont have to "know their role", be proud of the car, it's fast. A lot of people like amby who don't own RA's base their info on magazine reviews, and act like it's their own personal knowledge. What do they know really? Being an evo guy, I can tell you that i am pleasantly suprised in what my RA can do. A wider set of wheels, rubber and a good tune (which is within reach of most if not all RA owners) will set this car worlds apart from anything else.

"Don't argue with fools, 'cause people from a distance can't tell who is who."
Lol i completely agree, I was staying stock, we're quick. Yes, with mods, we're definitely a whole new animal, which is nice because it can be done relatively cheap.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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when I look at the RA its a multi personality car. Lets venture out guys I mean really this is no ordinary lancer look at the features/Performance technology it has to offer.

In the little time that it has been in the market it has drawn some pretty decent attention to the aftermarket. Much more aftermarket support then any lancer that has been in the line up.


looks wise it blows all of its competitors out the box. Performance wise its right up there in the top 4 or 5 out of say 12 cars.

This is why I make a big fuss about people putting down the 2009 mivec turbocharged family/sports sedan.

It has so much flexibility, anyone that drives in your family can drive it even a soccor mom lol. now try putting your lady in a vette chances are she will sh***t in her pants.

and I'm not at all saying women cannot drive a car like a vette I have seen plenty driving a vette and it's pretty damn hot!!!

In all honesty I could have damn well afforded an EVO, STI, MS3 and all those who compare up against the ralliart.

hell I could have even bought a vette based on what otter said they are priced at. but when it all comes down to the wire I choose the Ralliart over all these cars because I thought it was unique, a sleeper, a daily driver by day and an all out ballz out speed deamon by night(I DONT MEAN STREETRACING EITHER, FOR THOSE WHO TAKE THINGS LITERALLY)


I'm an adult but a kid at heart and a ralliart is just that kind of car for me.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by IdriveRA
Why would I post in another car forum, talking smack about a car I don't have. I am NOT you Amby.


Let's move on...
A lightly modded RA will be a good race and if not beat a stock vette,. done. and since 80% (reasonable number) of people are not "pro" drivers there's a good chance an RA would win.
Granted since the RA has a fool proof tranny, making it easier to drive.

anyways....
So you only want to talk "smack" about a car in the comfort of your own forum. You and I both know the Corvette people would rip you apart just as the Evo people rip apart Lancer owners that are naive enough to claim they are equal.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
No, first off, Corvettes start under $50k, and I'm sure in these times, you can walk away with a new one for much less than that. Secondly, there's a huge difference between a car that runs 12.2-12.3 stock and 13.9-14.1 stock. Even a mildly modified Ralliart is barely touching 12.9, and that overheats the transmission.

Anyways, you're still completely missing the point of what I'm saying.
Bingo, you hit it right on the button. No one is saying that a Ralliart will never run a faster 1/4 mile time than a Corvette. However, it will require a lot more mods than the simple bolt-ons (thus classifying it as a lightly modified car) that people are suggesting. The stock turbo won't cut it. You also have to hope to god that you get a bad driver in the Corvette, that the car isn't modded even slightly (a single mod on the Corvette could spell disaster for the Ralliart) and that you get a perfect, literally perfect, run out of the Ralliart.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RotorGlowRA82
i agree man,

it is not half of what the vette is in overall performance but power wise it has the potential to do so at a very fair price.
It has the potential to run a similar 1/4 mile time if heavily modded (a new turbo will be necessary) as a bone stock Corvette, wow, stop the presses. The reason for this is the AWD, if you compare trap speeds, they won't even be close. The Corvette is a whole different class of car, comparing the Ralliart to it is insulting to the Corvette and the Ralliart.
Old Apr 23, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDriver11421
See I hate comments like this, its almost like some of us back pedal when guys like amby come in and sh*t on the Ralliart. RA owners dont have to "know their role", be proud of the car, it's fast. A lot of people like amby who don't own RA's base their info on magazine reviews, and act like it's their own personal knowledge. What do they know really? Being an evo guy, I can tell you that i am pleasantly suprised in what my RA can do. A wider set of wheels, rubber and a good tune (which is within reach of most if not all RA owners) will set this car worlds apart from anything else.

"Don't argue with fools, 'cause people from a distance can't tell who is who."
How am I "****ting" on the RA? Because I think comparing it to a Corvette is silly? So I guess I **** on the WRX as well when I say exactly the same thing to people who try to compare it to an M3 or rationalize their purchase by saying they can get Viper performance for half the price. It's about being realistic. If that hurts people's feelings, sorry but that's life.



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