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Old May 14, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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Go on... I'm not the one destroying my keyboard for some internet forum talk.
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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Go on... I'm not the one destroying my keyboard for some internet forum talk.
Oh god, not this BS again. "You're a loser for posting on an internet forum and I'm going tell you that by posting on an internet forum".
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Oh god, not this BS again. "You're a loser for posting on an internet forum and I'm going tell you that by posting on an internet forum".
No. I never called you a loser. Are you mad because I am bring up facts and numbers?
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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No. I never called you a loser. Are you mad because I am bring up facts and numbers?
What facts and numbers? Just wow.
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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What facts and numbers? Just wow.
I gathered facts and numbers from fds, ers, fcs and erx. They are famous internet companies that do facts and numbers for a living. You are destroying your keyboard. I stated the obvious fact. Now do you get it?
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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I gathered facts and numbers from fds, ers, fcs and erx. They are famous internet companies that do facts and numbers for a living. You are destroying your keyboard. I stated the obvious fact. Now do you get it?
Source? This thread is just amazing. People are getting so butthurt by data provided by independent and reputable sources. Data that has been available for years and that ultimately says nothing about whether their car is right for them. Amazing really is the only word.

Now continue with your illogical arguments, they are quite amusing and certainly provide support for your position.
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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personal attacks
Why do you keep accusing the members of this forum to attack you? Do you fancy another human being's violent presence? You need a therapist. Maybe excessive online posting has gotten you delusional.
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Source? This thread is just amazing. People are getting so butthurt by data provided by independent and reputable sources. Data that has been available for years and that ultimately says nothing about whether their car is right for them. Amazing really is the only word.

Now continue with your illogical arguments, they are quite amusing and certainly provide support for your position.
Why are you accusing people of being butthurt? Did anyone mention their anus cavity is in pain? You are making up random stuff. You need to get your head checked.
Old May 14, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Why do you keep accusing the members of this forum to attack you? Do you fancy another human being's violent presence? You need a therapist. Maybe excessive online posting has gotten you delusional.
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Why are you accusing people of being butthurt? Did anyone mention their anus cavity is in pain? You are making up random stuff. You need to get your head checked.
Oh I don't know, maybe it's comments like

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sure buddy, go back to nastyc*ck
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To everyone who reads this thread:
Don't forget who you are talking to, a Miata owner, who has never driven these cars. All his statements are based on what "he heard from that one guy that one time...in band camp'". Call me crazy, but I put personal experience far ahead of Internet speculation.

/end this beotch/
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Right. blindly repeating your "internet numbers" argument over and over in everyone of your post shows that you do not hate on a certain car. You, sir, are and idiot.

LOL MUSTANG HAS BETTER NUMBERS THAN EVERY CAR LOL AND EVERY CAR IS GOOD
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Everyone says the same thing everytime he shows up (about every 3 months). What we all need to realize is that Amby is a Grad Law student, his whole life revolves around arguing and source quoting. To him, none of this means anything, other than the pure joy of ruffling feathers and being "the winner".
Think of the guy opposite Tom Cruise in 'A Few Good Men'...and then place him in a pink Miata.
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Right. So let me get this straight. You would rather rely everything on data, numbers. You would decide a superior car purely based on quarter mile times and skid pad. It's idiots like you that ruin car forums, short sighted people that look no deeper than the skin of the automotive world. Good luck to you, expert.

BTW if you took your time reading rather than writing up 13000 useless posts, you would be recognized as less of an idiot. Just my 2 cents.
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I doubt it's true, a man who is a glorious internet warrior has no time for silly bars.
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Yea... Like I said, he cannot see past the "internet numbers" and properly judge a car, poor human being.
These qualify quite nicely as personal attacks because they are comments about my personal characteristics. They are not directed at my posts, but at me as a person. I find them funny but they are still personal attacks. Calling someone an idiot and drawing in their personal life are personal attacks.

Butthurt, aka, getting irrationally upset over something minor. That applies to this thread. People are getting upset because the WRX outperforms the Ralliart in stock trim. A fact that is not a big deal yet people have blown it to epic proportions.
Old May 14, 2012 | 01:21 AM
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well this was 20 minutes of good fun.

I am with amby though... sorry guys, not saying you bought the wrong car, its personal preference but, STOCK VS STOCK, the wrx comes out on top on all test. Sure you can argue as much as you want by saying oh well put some better tires. But then thats not stock anymore.

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Old May 14, 2012 | 04:39 AM
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I dumped the Subie after 8 months, and I've had the RA for 20 months (so far). I've contemplated trading it in for the MR twice, and both times decided to keep my RA.
Yep, dissappionted buyer, right here. I guess that's why I've kept the car this long
I was just kidding. Sarcasm is hard to translate over the internet.

Here is what Amby said (in a nutshell):
1). Out of the box, the WRX is a better performer. (probably true)
2). The WRX is lighter, which gives it a totally different set of handling characteristics (making it tough to judge which is "better"). (true)
3). Once you start modifying the RA, which everyone here has done, it becomes impossible to judge which is "better". (very true)

My offhanded comment was a humorous attempt to poke fun at those who would blindly defend the RA, which is what a lot of you are doing. The RA is not that good, out of the box, which is something that most here should know by now. However, once you start playing with it, it makes no difference. Nothing here was a dig at anyone who owns a modified RA. The simple fact is that that seems to be the natural course of events in the lifetime ownership of an RA. They can be a ton faster. You can get them to handle a lot better. If Mitsubishi had done all of that from the factory, what fun would it be to buy one for the purpose of "tuning" it? None.
Old May 14, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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My god what did I do? lol I was kind of curious because I never really looked into it but damn.
Old May 14, 2012 | 04:46 AM
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The other problem is that people are giving, in my opinion, too much credence to Top Gear. They are entertaining, but they often get car reviews wrong. They leave out tuning potential, which is really what this forum is interested in. Therefore, Amby and I get the impression that this thread was going to turn into an RA circle-jerk. The reality is that Mitsubishi royally screwed some aspects of this car, from the factory, which doesn't usually net it good reviews. I was never under the impression that this car was particularly good at much, besides commuting, from the factory. I ripped everything out of my RA for this very reason. For me, it wasn't about factory performance. I am a big fan of the RA community. And yes, I can be a dick, from time to time. I just get really frustrated when I feel like other members and I aren't on the same page. I could frankly care less what this thing could do from the factory. The fun of modifying cars is correctly problems in an intelligent manner. I did this with my brakes, my gauges, my transmission, etc. I love solving problems. That is why I am here. I am not kidding myself that even my car (X) is somehow the end all be all.
Old May 14, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NFSLancerRA
The other problem is that people are giving, in my opinion, too much credence to Top Gear. They are entertaining, but they often get car reviews wrong. They leave out tuning potential, which is really what this forum is interested in. Therefore, Amby and I get the impression that this thread was going to turn into an RA circle-jerk. The reality is that Mitsubishi royally screwed some aspects of this car, from the factory, which doesn't usually net it good reviews. I was never under the impression that this car was particularly good at much, besides commuting, from the factory. I ripped everything out of my RA for this very reason. For me, it wasn't about factory performance. I am a big fan of the RA community. And yes, I can be a dick, from time to time. I just get really frustrated when I feel like other members and I aren't on the same page. I could frankly care less what this thing could do from the factory. The fun of modifying cars is correctly problems in an intelligent manner. I did this with my brakes, my gauges, my transmission, etc. I love solving problems. That is why I am here. I am not kidding myself that even my car (X) is somehow the end all be all.
+1 Well said.

The car does have it's flaws (as with pretty much any other vehicle on the road), but negating those flaws is part of the fun in modding.
Old May 14, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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