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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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any ideas? has this happened to anyone?
I'm using the 50Ohm 10W, and its been working for several weeks.

even @ 15V it would still only suck down 4.5W so im happy enough with the 10W rating.




*bump* for full ecu fix. not too fond of running around with a non weather proofed resistor on my under carriage

TIA mrfred!!!!

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dexmix
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TIA mrfred!!!!
So many things I want to do... Someone might have to sabatoge my rear O2 sensor to get me back to this. :-) I know where the OBD-II routine for the heater check is now, so I'll try to take a look this week.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Nice write up.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
P0133 = *front* oxygen sensor slow response.
nice pickup there MrFred!
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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currently im using zt2 to send out narrowband voltage. ill double check on my connections and make sure everything is in place. ill also double check for exhaust leak that may cause the problem. tnx!
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Installed this today, seems to be working so far. My heater +12v and ground wires are both black.. I am using wires from the O2 sensor side of the plug though, maybe the colors are different there. I ran some errands and it was cool to the touch when I got home..
Well not sure how long it takes, but it does get very hot. It didn't melt the carpet though
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Old May 5, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
So many things I want to do... Someone might have to sabatoge my rear O2 sensor to get me back to this. :-) I know where the OBD-II routine for the heater check is now, so I'll try to take a look this week.
*bump* i need someone to help me out and steal mrfred's rear o2 sensor.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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I've been trying to get at this heater check routine from a few different angles. Today, I think I found the periphery bit that controls the O2 heater check. It appears to be periphery2, bit 11. Not sure what effect it will have on the OBD-II test readiness state. Here's what to do:

Change Periphery2 from EFDF to E7DF

If I am interpretting the ROM code correctly, there is no way to disable just the rear O2 heater. This will disable both the front and rear O2 heater checks, so beware of that limitation. If someone could try this and report back to me, I would appreciate it. Also, could you use ScanTech to observe the "Readiness" condition for the heater check?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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is this for 88590015? can u post up the address of the routine you are looking at..

i will find it for my rom and see if I can see whats going on
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tephra
is this for 88590015? can u post up the address of the routine you are looking at..

i will find it for my rom and see if I can see whats going on
The bit test to run the O2 heater check is at: 0x2DAF4. The heater check is run if FFFF6BB8 bit11 (bit0 = lowest bit) = 1. If you follow that RAM variable back to its source, you'll see that the "Periphery2" value is written to it. Note that there are a bunch of bit tests that allow for the value at 0xFCA to be modified before it gets written to FFFF6BB8. None of the modifications are performed for the OEM configuration though.

If you sniff around a bit there, I think you'll see that:

Periphery00 -> FFFF6BB2
Periphery0 -> FFFF6BB4
Periphery1 -> FFFF6BB6
Periphery2 -> FFFF6BB8
Periphery3 -> FFFF6BBA
Periphery4 -> FFFF6BBC

Overall, its kinda of a nifty find. Should make it relatively straightforward to determine what each bit in the periphery settings does now.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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ahhh good old HUGE_METHOD

yeah thats actually different on different ROMID's.

so I can't find that chunk of code on my ID...
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Did you find the heater check subroutine?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I've been trying to get at this heater check routine from a few different angles. Today, I think I found the periphery bit that controls the O2 heater check. It appears to be periphery2, bit 11. Not sure what effect it will have on the OBD-II test readiness state. Here's what to do:

Change Periphery2 from EFDF to E7DF

If I am interpretting the ROM code correctly, there is no way to disable just the rear O2 heater. This will disable both the front and rear O2 heater checks, so beware of that limitation. If someone could try this and report back to me, I would appreciate it. Also, could you use ScanTech to observe the "Readiness" condition for the heater check?
No one wants to try this?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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I'll try it after work. It would just be disabling the checks, not shutting off the heater correct?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
No one wants to try this?
I'll try this either tonight or tomorrow. I didn't realize scan-tech can check readiness codes? what tab is that on?
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