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Old May 9, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Teal2nnr
Not much to explain, its just a **** ton of timing. Do you have any logs?
Yes, why do you think this is to much timing?
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Old May 10, 2015 | 07:55 AM
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Nagua,


Most won't see more than 4* at spool up and no more than 12-13 at 7K in those load cells on pump gas. I know you can go further on E85 but 25+ degrees is excessive. You're igniting fuel while the piston is still traveling up in the cylinder. What was the nature of your engine failure?

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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 92 GSR-4
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Most won't see more than 4* at spool up and no more than 12-13 at 7K in those load cells on pump gas. I know you can go further on E85 but 25+ degrees is excessive. You're igniting fuel while the piston is still traveling up in the cylinder. What was the nature of your engine failure?
Not sure but at idle engine sounds like it has V-8 cams in it. Our guess is rod bearing from being hammered. What do you think? This tune was put on last monday and within 150-200 miles it started acting up.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:23 AM
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Here is my Knock Sensitivity on Left.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:42 AM
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That almost looks like somebody was intentionally trying to blow up your engine.

That ignition timing is 15*+ past MBT in some places.

That is with your Garrett 35R at 29psi? :-/

Is this the same Nagua that was on the forums telling people their tunes suck?

Oh the irony...

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Old May 10, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
That almost looks like somebody was intentionally trying to blow up your engine.

That ignition timing is 15*+ past MBT in some places.

Is this the same Nagua that was on the forums telling people their tunes suck?

Oh the irony...
No. I was not saying their tunes suck. I was saying E-Tuning is not as safe as dyno street tunes. Now it looks like an E-Tune would be much safer than my street tune loaded on my ECU. I do not want to think that my tuner would intentionally would do this. He fried my turbo 3 weeks ago and maybe he is upset that I sent it to ATP Garrett for inspection? I do not know for sure but something looks fishy. I already talked to shop owner that I never want him touching my X again. I will say shop owner has agreed to pay for turbo damage. Maybe after he looks at my maps he will help out some with engine rebuild. Because so far every tuner I have shown my data to has thrown up the RED flag. Engine is toasted. I am sending this data to a Indy car tuner I know to see what he has to say. He is a neutral party.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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Wow.....that map tells me it was one of 2 types of people..... either they didn't know what the hell they were doing..... or they knew and did that on purpose.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ReaperX
Wow.....that map tells me it was one of 2 types of people..... either they didn't know what the hell they were doing..... or they knew and did that on purpose.
It makes me sick to my stomach. How many miles would it take to blow up with this tune?
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Old May 10, 2015 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nagua
It makes me sick to my stomach. How many miles would it take to blow up with this tune?
Well you said you got it tuned last Monday, so how many miles have you driven?

Was this this strictly done on the street using virtual dyno? I can't see the car making more and more power with that much advance....I don't even know why he would advance it that far. There must have been a point where the torque was dropping, yet he decided to advance the timing even more?? it doesn't even look like he was in the ballpark. This is purely speculation on my behalf though.

I feel for you man, its a ****ty spot to be in.
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Old May 10, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Teal2nnr
Well you said you got it tuned last Monday, so how many miles have you driven?

Was this this strictly done on the street using virtual dyno? I can't see the car making more and more power with that much advance....I don't even know why he would advance it that far. There must have been a point where the torque was dropping, yet he decided to advance the timing even more?? it doesn't even look like he was in the ballpark. This is purely speculation on my behalf though.

I feel for you man, its a ****ty spot to be in.
Thank you. This tune has me blown away. I am mystified
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Old May 11, 2015 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nagua
It makes me sick to my stomach. How many miles would it take to blow up with this tune?
No way to say exactly how many miles..... but it would be inevitable.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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I'm guessing I know who did this tune. Interesting.
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Old May 11, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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Wtf

That's fkd up. Some one blew your s up and left s card
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Old May 12, 2015 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nagua
Can you explain a little more? This is a tune from the top tuner here in Dallas.
Side note: My engine just let loose on 5/8/15
one wot run would be enough to blow the motor with those timing numbers. timing is way too high. with the modified knock sensitivity tables, i totally agree with razorlab that it appears that someone intentionally destroyed your motor.

who is this "top" tuner? the fact that the knock sensitivity tables were modified suggest that they now something about evos.
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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Im sure you would be doing a few People a favor by letting us know who the tuner was. I wouldn't want someone else to have to go through this....
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