I see you eliminated the "0" column and row, and the 11000 RPM row. I suppose this didn't cause any issues?

Why did you do it anyway??

Is LS on or off???

 

I did the same thing with no issues the load on my car never goes below 30 unless its downhill on closed throttle which isn't an issue .

The 11k rpm column i moved to 8250 to get better control of the high end timing since the rpm cap on my car is 8k.

 

I was tuning my car last night and I think there is something wrong...My car just eats timing like no other. 8* at peak and 16* top end. This is all on 92oct and a FP Green. Only 1-2counts around peak but none up top. I'll get some pix up later of the log and map. Well the car feels great, alot better then before. I haven't even activated my water/meth yet...

 

lol there are many people with 8's in their timing maps from peak torque on up..What do your timing logs tell you?

 

Dropping the "0" column will cause some issues if EVERY table that uses that axis isn't edited to compensate but changing the 11k rpm column isn't going to hurt anyone. I set my top coulmn to whatever my rev limit is set to. For driveability, I find it best not to mess with the rpm and load axis' in the 0-3500 RPM range and the 0-60 load range. Especially in climates that have drastic weather changes regularly.

A FP Green is pushing a WHOLE lot more air than a stock 8 turbo and 8* at peak torque on 92 octane pump gas on an 8 is normal.....if you're running lowww boost lol.

 

Exactly, running 8* at peak torque (straight 92oct) means you are running very conservative boost.

Nice info on how mbt varies between evo 8 and evo 9.
What is the reason behind it??

 

Probably the mivec combo.

 

My boost gauge says 25-26psi and tapers down to 22-23psi. So increase the boost and see when knock occurs? Then retard timing? I know thats not exactly the case, I'll try adding more timing at that boost and see if I gain enough to keep me content. Then I'll try adding more boost and retard the timing.

I just thought it was alittle strange to see 8* peak on 92oct at 25-26psi.

 

add more timing...lol

 

8* seems to be a lot for this boost on 92oct.
What's your peak 2byte load? are you living at high altitude?

 

You don't have an FQ-400. Do you? Your boost gauge is most likely wrong. Post your logs and maps and people here will help you out.

 

I'm was seeing 295. I messed with the airflow/maf alittle and it dropped to 280+. I live in seattle, so no its not high compared to others. Maybe my boost gauge is off alittle? Say maybe 2-3psi? Its a glowshift mechanical gauge.

Even before I put on the Green. With my stock 9 turbo, my car was eatting alot of timing. Not as much as it is now, but maybe thats just how my car is? I'll try more logging tomorrow with 5 back to back runs to make sure things are consistent. Then I'm gonna try adding my boost untill it starts knocking and then retard timing. BTW, my arf's are 12.3 spool up, 11.8-11.6 peak, 11.4-11.2 top.

I just find it funny because I've seen maps with meth and E85 running the same timing and more boost then me, while I'm just using 92oct.

 

NooOo, I wish I had a real FQ. Just a regular IX SE. Shooting for FQ-400 numbers. Thats all. I'll post up the maps and logs tomorrow after I do some back to back logs. I was guessing my guage was off too, but the vacuum is where its always been for over a year.

The car actually feels better then before. It use to "fuel cut" alittle or jerk slightly while at WOT. Now it doesn't do it. It also just feels alot stronger.

 

Max load of 295 isn't far off 26psi. I can't find the thread but there is one where a well known tuner had a freak car that took ridiculous timing. It had a mechanical fault. I think it ended up something to do with the cam timing being well off.

You'll easily better the FQ400 with the green, especially with a 9.

And that jerk at WOT is probably spark blow out. Try copper plugs, NGK BR7ES with a 0.6mm gap.

 

Interesting, I'll look into that. I have been messing with the mivec maps. I can post that map too if people want to see it. Sharing is caring right.

I was thinking the spark plugs too. I have the stockers still in and just regapped them. I'm leaning more towards denso's. Copper plugs are good and all, but you gotta replace them often. I guess thats something I gotta do for better performance.

I plan on running water/meth very soon. So I gotta see if this is safe before I increase boost add more timing and lean AFR's.

Thanks for the help. I'll try to find that thread.