We get a lot of Floridians when we do our GA dyno tuning events in Calhoun Georgia at Dyno4mance (www.dyno4mance.com). It's a bit of a drive but most seem to think it is worthwhile. So far, I think I've personally tuned nearly 100 cars in that neck of the woods. I'm sure a good portion of those were from Fl (as well as Tenn. and other neighboring states.) Andrew at Dyno4mance has done a lot of EVO tuning work with the XEDE as well so he can certainly help you out as well.

The idea of a baseline reflash (or baseline XEDE map) being optiminal for any and all similarly modifed cars is untrue. If Mr. Buschur actually took the effort to travel and tune a fair number of customer cars himself, he might see that being the case. This has certainly been proven time and time again at all our dyno days. Not just with our products but with other 3rd party reflashes as well. FWIW, we map, on average, 30-40 EVOs a month. Or as many as 100-120 a month during dyno day season. This is what it takes to make a good baseline file. Not typing on internet forums and insulting other tuners. And even then, custom tuning can yield an additional 10-20whp depending on car and set-up.

Regards,
shiv

 

I think I would get the Buschur Exhaust aswell. I hear nothing but good about it plus it will be much cheaper then the one from Vishnu. Although I don't know if Shiv will be able to come and tune mine.

Shiv,
Do you ever go down to dyno4mance? I could meet you there, if I end up going with your package.

 

Do the majority of you guys think I should just get most of the parts seperate and install myself? Then get the Xede / Buschurs flash depending on whicever path I take. Then just get the tuning done? Or should I just go all the way adn go straight to Stg 4 or Vsh Stg1+

 

The bottom line is whatever you do, if you go with a reputable company and tuner, you'll be very happy, and your car will be SIGNIFICANTLY faster than stock, as well as most cars on the road

 

So I suppose those browsing your website are considered enemies?

http://www.buschurracing.com/cgi-bin....cgi?25X376545

From your website:
"HKS Adjustable Cam Gears allow fine tuning of the camshaft timing to maximize engine performance and tailor power characteristics for various driving conditions. Either with OEM or HKS Camshafts, adjustments can be made to tune an engine's power band to the optimum RPM range for a particular application. HKS Cam Gears are made completely of anodized aluminum except for applications with timing chains which utilize an aluminum slide with steel teeth. NOTE: Mention seeing this and recieve free shipping on this item."

Regards,
shiv

 

Stop battling. You two are ovbiously both very good companies. Theres no point to putting eachother down. You both have 100+ people on this forum with your parts. No need to put eachother down.

 

The car is already faster then most cars on the road

It will probably one of the fastest cars in my area. Besides the 5 or 6 STI's that I see, also my neighbors Lamborgini.
But I can beat my moms SL500!

 

So you are saying that experiance with the Engine in question and the modifications that work for that engine is key to developing base maps..... sort of like the 15 years of experiance Dave Buschar has tuning the 4g63?

Keith

PS: I refuse to edit anything in this thread due to my personal involvment... other mods will have to edit out any crap talking posts.

 

I dont see the point with that? The item description is from HKS-USA, not Buschur. Also, just because someone does not "like" a certain product does not mean they should not sell it (Afterall he is a major parts supplier). I'm sure many restaurant owners don't like certain types of food but they most definitely offer those foods on their menus anyway, same principle applies.

PS - that was a biatch move

 

Actually Shiv I'm the one that put those up on our site as we are an HKS Pro-Dealer. It is at the customers own discretion on what they want to buy and it is our job to point them in the right direction of their build but if they chose to buy them we do have access to them. It is called ADVERTISING. But like David mentioned we do NOT recommend any type of cam gears wether it be AEM, HKS, Venom, etc. etc....

Why dont you quit knit picking and trying to start sh*t and get back on topic. Man you get on my nerves.

Jarrod
Buschur Racing Inc.

 

DAAAAAYYYYYMMMMNNNN Someone just got OOOOWWWWNNNNNNEEEDDD.

 

Thats it. Next shootout I am bringing a set of boxing gloves so you guys can just duke it out and get it over and then have a pee pee measuring contest and call it a day and live a happy tuning life.

 

I'm game

 

Let me get this straight: Dave B. insists that they suck. That they are not worth the risk. And that he doesn't recommend them (except to his own enemies, perhaps). Yet you offer free shipping on them if you mention that ad.

Sorry if pointing out obvious inconsistencies in your claims/suggestions gets on your nerves. But you should be careful about sending such mixed signals to potential customers.

And Fourdoor-- I'm sure Dave has lots of experience with the 4663. A lot of experience with letting others tune them for him. First Tym (who left to start his own tuning company) and now Al. But his comments regarding baseline maps aren't true. And if he actually spent more time in the field, with more customer cars, he'd see that. Building fast shop cars is always fun and rewarding. But it's not quite the same as being hands-on with customer cars when it comes to refining ones tuning products.

Just my 2c,
shiv