Judge the tune, not the messanger....
Originally Posted by KevOVIII
Source: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...4&postcount=79
It's been 14 days and I still haven't heard anything about the rev limit from you, Al.
Getting put off by someone gets old after a while...
It's been 14 days and I still haven't heard anything about the rev limit from you, Al.
Getting put off by someone gets old after a while...
READ BELOW! shi **** TALKING AGAIN
Originally Posted by blueo4
I wonder what
would do with it!
Drama oh Drama
I don't know, but It would require 2 S-AFCs since it has 2 MAFs.
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
I don't know, but It would require 2 S-AFCs since it has 2 MAFs.
shiv
no no Al can flash it!
r u saying that the can only tune with SAFC?
just fess up and tell the truth!
u changed the oil.
how is the unichip treating ya all?
the boys in england got a new version out
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Originally Posted by blueo4
I wonder what
would do with it!
Drama oh Drama
I don't know, but It would require 2 S-AFCs since it has 2 MAFs.
shiv
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
I don't know, but It would require 2 S-AFCs since it has 2 MAFs.
shiv
no no Al can flash it!
r u saying that the can only tune with SAFC?
just fess up and tell the truth!
u changed the oil.
how is the unichip treating ya all?
the boys in england got a new version out
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Originally Posted by Evoitis1
I am going with these guys at www.dynoflash.com they offered me a complete custom dyno tune on my car with a reflash they are doing for $450.00. That includes the dyno time and the flash. These guys are real experts on dsm tuning also and they just did a tune on a Black Evo that is going to the Ultimate Street Car Challenge next week. They said they will be ready to start on client cars in two weeks, they are finishing base maps now. The price is right and they really know what they are doing so its a no-brainer for me. Oh, and money back guarantee if I don't get an extra 20 hp !
Originally Posted by Doogie Howser
I think the fact that Al has not responded to your post for the last two weeks means that it was overlooked but it would be a lot easier if he just answered the question.
Originally Posted by Jim_Patterson
Its easier to get ahold of al, through email
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Please stop referring to everyone who disagrees with you as "vishnuites". Labelling people like that isn't going to do you any good. Besides, as few have pointed out, they aren't even our customers. Just some advice.. take it or leave it.
And good lord Al, someone with your history on this forum shouldn't be providing any lessons on morality or judgements of mental health. How can you not be overwhelmed by the stench of your own hypocracy? I think the best thing for you to do at this point is to take a few steps back and find out if I actually tuned that WRX. Because his name is not in our computer database. Nor do I recall ever going anywhere near Ohio to tune any WRXs. But stranger things have happened so I'm certainly not saying that I couldn't have tuned it.
And furthermore, it would be nice to see what/who made him change his mind from this (3 weeks ago on the WRX forum):
to this (in this thread):
I have no doubts in my mind that, like everyone else, I have made mistakes in the past. With regards to tuning or otherwise. But instead of throwing mud blindly and seeing what sticks, try to be a little be more fair to the readers on this forum. But saying that to someone with your illustrious evom history (ie. posting as "Evoitis1" to sling mud at other tuners, attack other shop products and --my favorite-- to give reviews of your own products/services!), that suggestion may be wasted.
-shiv
And good lord Al, someone with your history on this forum shouldn't be providing any lessons on morality or judgements of mental health. How can you not be overwhelmed by the stench of your own hypocracy? I think the best thing for you to do at this point is to take a few steps back and find out if I actually tuned that WRX. Because his name is not in our computer database. Nor do I recall ever going anywhere near Ohio to tune any WRXs. But stranger things have happened so I'm certainly not saying that I couldn't have tuned it.
And furthermore, it would be nice to see what/who made him change his mind from this (3 weeks ago on the WRX forum):
to this (in this thread):
I have no doubts in my mind that, like everyone else, I have made mistakes in the past. With regards to tuning or otherwise. But instead of throwing mud blindly and seeing what sticks, try to be a little be more fair to the readers on this forum. But saying that to someone with your illustrious evom history (ie. posting as "Evoitis1" to sling mud at other tuners, attack other shop products and --my favorite-- to give reviews of your own products/services!), that suggestion may be wasted.
-shiv
I really don't care about Subarus what so ever and I am not really interetsed in this particular one but you can be rest assured that when I get out there I will produce a very detailed and comprehensive elavluation of the situation with that car
In 9 out of 10 cases of the people who constantly defend you and your services and attacking myself - they either have an Xede or some other product supplied by your company - hence "Vishnuites"
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I think you Vishnuites are going way
in an attempt to derail the conversation and shift the subject
I don't think that the customer pays or does not may is relevant to the subject at hand
I have found many people in my live who can admit to NO WRONG - they NEVER make a mistake and its always someone else's fault. We call these sort sociopaths.
in an attempt to derail the conversation and shift the subject I don't think that the customer pays or does not may is relevant to the subject at hand
I have found many people in my live who can admit to NO WRONG - they NEVER make a mistake and its always someone else's fault. We call these sort sociopaths.
As Shiv pointed out, not everyone you believe is "on his side" even owns any Vishnu parts. I do not even drive an Evo, nor a WRX and Shiv makes no parts or services for either of the cars I drive, which you can see just to the left of all my posts.
I have no vested interest in either side.
And my original point is still clear; given all the time spent in this thread attempting to defend each of your respective reputations, one of you, any one of you, could have re-tuned the car for free, or at least at cost so that no-one here profits off this obvious misfortune.
Now, if no one here wants to do it for free, that's fine. Perhaps the customer has lied to everyone here? But, if it's your reputations you're all attempting to bolster, you'll find that offering your free time as a tuner is far more effective than debating things on Evom.
Originally Posted by JTB
I just thought this was interesting...
Just so you know - this whole Evoitis1 situation from over two years and change ago is yet another fact twisted and manipulated by Shiv
The comment posted above was made BEFORE Dyno Flash even existed or had flashed ONE ECU
Sept 11, 2003 was when it was made
At that point Dyno Flash was a partnership invloving other parties and I was going to have my car flashed as the first one
The main reason why I did not post under my actual screen name at the time was becuase I knew if Shiv found out that I was having anything to do with Dyno Flash before we got our hands on the equipment and started as vendors here he would try and prevent it from occuring
It was a mistake for me to have used the Evoitis1 sceen name - however - at the time I had specific reasons for my actions
The facts are that Dyno Flash was not incorporated at that time, we did not have any flashing machine then and we had not started doing any business at the time.
Of course Shiv somehow thinks this is all relevant to the issue of the tuning of the particular WRX which is the subject of this thread
It is a familar pattern
I have not even posted one bad word here about SHiv's tuning or accused him of anything
It was Mr. Bushcur who posted his feelings
Yet - Shiv's response is to bring out a lot of mud slinging and accusations against MYSELF to change the subject from a discussion about his tuning and try and generate a huge pissing contest so the thread will get locked
This pattern of behavior has occured time and time again
Now it is my cue to throw some dirt at Shiv - but i wont becuase I dont want the thread to get locked
Lets try and keep this dicussion ON TOPIC and stay on point
accusations and insults should be directed BY PM or email or on a seperate thread
Originally Posted by SaabTuner
You know what else is funny? My original comment (before you said DB was going to fix things) was directed at all of the tuners participating in this argument/debate/discussion. Not specifically at you, Al.
As Shiv pointed out, not everyone you believe is "on his side" even owns any Vishnu parts. I do not even drive an Evo, nor a WRX and Shiv makes no parts or services for either of the cars I drive, which you can see just to the left of all my posts.
I have no vested interest in either side.
And my original point is still clear; given all the time spent in this thread attempting to defend each of your respective reputations, one of you, any one of you, could have re-tuned the car for free, or at least at cost so that no-one here profits off this obvious misfortune.
Now, if no one here wants to do it for free, that's fine. Perhaps the customer has lied to everyone here? But, if it's your reputations you're all attempting to bolster, you'll find that offering your free time as a tuner is far more effective than debating things on Evom.
As Shiv pointed out, not everyone you believe is "on his side" even owns any Vishnu parts. I do not even drive an Evo, nor a WRX and Shiv makes no parts or services for either of the cars I drive, which you can see just to the left of all my posts.
I have no vested interest in either side.
And my original point is still clear; given all the time spent in this thread attempting to defend each of your respective reputations, one of you, any one of you, could have re-tuned the car for free, or at least at cost so that no-one here profits off this obvious misfortune.
Now, if no one here wants to do it for free, that's fine. Perhaps the customer has lied to everyone here? But, if it's your reputations you're all attempting to bolster, you'll find that offering your free time as a tuner is far more effective than debating things on Evom.
Again - I feel its
and irrelevant I don't tune ANYONE for free
I hear of many opf my customers being offered free tuning services by other tuners in an effort to try and make more power on the dyno and claim some bragging rights
Frankly I am way to busy to waste my time with such antics
As i have said before - I get customers from other tuners every week - in some cases all week long
IF I tuned them all for free I would be evicted from my home in short order
I tune 95% Evos - Subaru is a very narrow business for me and I don't have great interest in tuning them
In this case if the customer in question has made arrangements with Mr. Buschur I am sure I will help out as much as possible and given that I was one of the first pioneers of WRX tuning in the US back in 2001 and 2002 I am sure that i will be able to properly diagnose any problems that exist
It is of course always possible that the problems in the car may be totally unrelated to the tuning itself and may be mechanical
HOWEVER - for those following - Mr. Buschur is one of the best if not the best tuners in the entire country if not the world and IF HE SAYS the tune sucks - I am fairly confident that in fact the tune does suck. There is not much that I do that Mr. Buschur has not done already and what he has been already doing long before more of the readers here got a driver's licesnse.
Originally Posted by Doogie Howser
No, Al has responded in this thread and has viewed it and it would take him 30 seconds to answer the question, whereis an email would waste more time for both partites.
However - I did send the guy a PM when I saw his post
I really feel such matters should be handled by PM as they are off topic
BUT - for those taking the time to read throgh all this diatribe
The crisis handling strategy of the Vishnu camp is to try and throw this thread
with as many
comments and attacks against myself as possible to obviscate and avoid dealing with the original topic and try and put the attackers on the defensive After seeing this done dozens of times over the past few years it is a very predictable pattern
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Just so you know - this whole Evoitis1 situation from over two years and change ago is yet another fact twisted and manipulated by Shiv
The comment posted above was made BEFORE Dyno Flash even existed or had flashed ONE ECU
Sept 11, 2003 was when it was made
At that point Dyno Flash was a partnership invloving other parties and I was going to have my car flashed as the first one
The main reason why I did not post under my actual screen name at the time was becuase I knew if Shiv found out that I was having anything to do with Dyno Flash before we got our hands on the equipment and started as vendors here he would try and prevent it from occuring
It was a mistake for me to have used the Evoitis1 sceen name - however - at the time I had specific reasons for my actions
The facts are that Dyno Flash was not incorporated at that time, we did not have any flashing machine then and we had not started doing any business at the time.
Of course Shiv somehow thinks this is all relevant to the issue of the tuning of the particular WRX which is the subject of this thread
It is a familar pattern
I have not even posted one bad word here about SHiv's tuning or accused him of anything
It was Mr. Bushcur who posted his feelings
Yet - Shiv's response is to bring out a lot of mud slinging and accusations against MYSELF to change the subject from a discussion about his tuning and try and generate a huge pissing contest so the thread will get locked
This pattern of behavior has occured time and time again
Now it is my cue to throw some dirt at Shiv - but i wont becuase I dont want the thread to get locked
Lets try and keep this dicussion ON TOPIC and stay on point
accusations and insults should be directed BY PM or email or on a seperate thread
The comment posted above was made BEFORE Dyno Flash even existed or had flashed ONE ECU
Sept 11, 2003 was when it was made
At that point Dyno Flash was a partnership invloving other parties and I was going to have my car flashed as the first one
The main reason why I did not post under my actual screen name at the time was becuase I knew if Shiv found out that I was having anything to do with Dyno Flash before we got our hands on the equipment and started as vendors here he would try and prevent it from occuring
It was a mistake for me to have used the Evoitis1 sceen name - however - at the time I had specific reasons for my actions
The facts are that Dyno Flash was not incorporated at that time, we did not have any flashing machine then and we had not started doing any business at the time.
Of course Shiv somehow thinks this is all relevant to the issue of the tuning of the particular WRX which is the subject of this thread
It is a familar pattern
I have not even posted one bad word here about SHiv's tuning or accused him of anything
It was Mr. Bushcur who posted his feelings
Yet - Shiv's response is to bring out a lot of mud slinging and accusations against MYSELF to change the subject from a discussion about his tuning and try and generate a huge pissing contest so the thread will get locked
This pattern of behavior has occured time and time again
Now it is my cue to throw some dirt at Shiv - but i wont becuase I dont want the thread to get locked
Lets try and keep this dicussion ON TOPIC and stay on point
accusations and insults should be directed BY PM or email or on a seperate thread
You got some cajones... i gotta hand it to you.Here's some other great quotes from you... er Evoitis:
I am going with www.dynoflash.com
They did a black evo that is going to the Ultimate Street Car Challenge. I think they custom tune each car on the dyno, and it is all included for only $450.00. I was told they will be doing customer evos in about two weeks.
They did a black evo that is going to the Ultimate Street Car Challenge. I think they custom tune each car on the dyno, and it is all included for only $450.00. I was told they will be doing customer evos in about two weeks.
Dynoflash stage 0 inlcudes up to two hours of awd dynojet dyno time and custom tuning for the same price as the Works through the mail flash? Either dynoflash is charging too little . . . . or?
How do you like this Big Al dyno sheet from today - its his new Stage Zero Plus - very lumpy and lean eh?
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There's a lot more Al. And if you really expect us to believe that you set up that bogus account so I couldn't interfer with you getting a Techtom machine (which you already had
), you need a serious reality check.As for being off topic, this thread was never on-topic. I don't see why it is so hard to confirm that I actually tuned that car. Did I or didn't I? Can't you or DB just ask the owner where/when I supposedly tuned the car?
...It's like extracting teeth somes times. But without the joy of laughing gas.
-shiv
Last edited by shiv@vishnu; Jan 29, 2006 at 12:26 PM.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I have found many people in my live who can admit to NO WRONG - they NEVER make a mistake and its always someone else's fault. We call these sort sociopaths.
Sociopaths, on the other hand, are a little more extreme. Think Charles Manson or Jim Jones. Beyond the inability for remorse, they're manipulative, pathological liers, glib and charming, etc.
Hope that clears things up. Now back to our regularly scheduled intra-vendor bashing
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
I don't see why it is so hard to confirm that I actually tuned that car. Did I or didn't I? Can't you or DB just ask the owner where/when I supposedly tuned the car?
...It's like extracting teeth somes times. But without the joy of laughing gas.
-shiv
1. They tell you who it is. You can then contact the customer and resolve the situation. Customer is happy. Al and DB end up looking silly.
2. They tell you who it is. You can then contact the customer and find out the customer tuned the car himself or by a third party. Al and DB end up looking silly.
3. If they don't tell you, then speculation runs wild (it has Vishnu parts so it must be Vishnu tuned). Al and DB show EVOm their superior tuning ability over Shiv even though the car was never tuned by Shiv
Last edited by jj_008; Jan 29, 2006 at 12:49 PM.
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
And good lord Al, someone with your history on this forum shouldn't be providing any lessons on morality or judgements of mental health. How can you not be overwhelmed by the stench of your own hypocracy?
The irony here is killing me...
Cabo



