Atp Kit/pruven Dyno Results!!!!
graphs that hit hard at say about 5800 then die off from there suck. ur doing nothing but loosing power as time goes on, due to looseing boost or whatever. might as well just shift when u hit 5800 everytime.
almost reminds me of the 12v 2.8l vr6 motors. they would hit hard down low, then just die.
almost reminds me of the 12v 2.8l vr6 motors. they would hit hard down low, then just die.
im telling u this ATP houseing is not as bad as people think it is, its not bad at all. i mean think of this, it fits a stock manifold and u can get the whole kit for 2200 new. i really cant wait to put some 112 116 octane in there and hit 28 psi. i have no doubts that it will be about 460-480 if not more. the tune is very consevitive like usually so its divable and reliable. the boost was 1.5bar or 21.75 psi. and yes it keeps pulling hard.
smokenjoe has the same kit with the .82 housing. i think if i add some race gas and hit like 28psi this thing should hit 480 easily. to say the least im satisfied. thanks for the posts.
race gas is safer and will result in better power. alcohol and meth injections scare me. i will never go that route due to the fact they can just up and fail on u and then u wonder y your pistons go through the block. f that
Horsepower is tq times rpm divided by 5252. Basically to make more hp at greater RPM's you need less tq than to make it at lower RPM's.
Because my car makes more HP and TQ down low, it has to taper towards the end more so than not making it all the way till redline. Basically I make the same power you do just sooner in the rev range, which is what I have been saying all this time. Its not the sort of shift that a stroker would do which is literally pick up the line and move it to the left and up a little bit, but its a different shape, one where your hp is always rising to make a peak that mine makes early.
When you say I might as well shift at 5800, your damn right i might as well shift then, and thats the whole point of running a GT30R over a 35 or any other larger turbo, you get your power down low, you don't have to rev to redline to make max power. If you do want a powerband like that they go with a big turbo and make more hp and less tq until later in the powerband.
Scorke
Because my car makes more HP and TQ down low, it has to taper towards the end more so than not making it all the way till redline. Basically I make the same power you do just sooner in the rev range, which is what I have been saying all this time. Its not the sort of shift that a stroker would do which is literally pick up the line and move it to the left and up a little bit, but its a different shape, one where your hp is always rising to make a peak that mine makes early.
When you say I might as well shift at 5800, your damn right i might as well shift then, and thats the whole point of running a GT30R over a 35 or any other larger turbo, you get your power down low, you don't have to rev to redline to make max power. If you do want a powerband like that they go with a big turbo and make more hp and less tq until later in the powerband.
Scorke
how can anyone say that the ve of the engine has nothing to do with the turbo?
what scorke says is right... the later your torque peak comes on the later it will fall off.
the later you spool hte later your torque peak comes.
your torque peak is indicative of when you reached peak ve.
you'll never find a turbo that reaches peak ve at some stupid low rpm and then holds it there to redline unless you have a LOT of variable geometry doodads at work.
why do stock turbos particularly 9.8 housings make such high torque number nad at such low rpms? because their fluid velocities are high due to tight small geometry and hence they reach peak ve quickly and thus produce peak torque quickly... and then it falls flat on it's face.
why do gt35rs run all the way to 10k on a 2 liter motor?
becuase they reach peak ve at such a late rpm becuase only at a late rpm do they develop enough fluid velocity to high peak ve and hence develop peak torque.
nothing to do with the turbo? it has EVERYTHING to do with the turbo.
if you don't hit peak ve on the exhuast side you don't move the compressor side you don't realize peak ve in the motor. and all the other vice versa angles on such an illustration. come on.
what scorke says is right... the later your torque peak comes on the later it will fall off.
the later you spool hte later your torque peak comes.
your torque peak is indicative of when you reached peak ve.
you'll never find a turbo that reaches peak ve at some stupid low rpm and then holds it there to redline unless you have a LOT of variable geometry doodads at work.
why do stock turbos particularly 9.8 housings make such high torque number nad at such low rpms? because their fluid velocities are high due to tight small geometry and hence they reach peak ve quickly and thus produce peak torque quickly... and then it falls flat on it's face.
why do gt35rs run all the way to 10k on a 2 liter motor?
becuase they reach peak ve at such a late rpm becuase only at a late rpm do they develop enough fluid velocity to high peak ve and hence develop peak torque.
nothing to do with the turbo? it has EVERYTHING to do with the turbo.
if you don't hit peak ve on the exhuast side you don't move the compressor side you don't realize peak ve in the motor. and all the other vice versa angles on such an illustration. come on.
Scorke
Horsepower is tq times rpm divided by 5252. Basically to make more hp at greater RPM's you need less tq than to make it at lower RPM's.
Because my car makes more HP and TQ down low, it has to taper towards the end more so than not making it all the way till redline. Basically I make the same power you do just sooner in the rev range, which is what I have been saying all this time. Its not the sort of shift that a stroker would do which is literally pick up the line and move it to the left and up a little bit, but its a different shape, one where your hp is always rising to make a peak that mine makes early.
When you say I might as well shift at 5800, your damn right i might as well shift then, and thats the whole point of running a GT30R over a 35 or any other larger turbo, you get your power down low, you don't have to rev to redline to make max power. If you do want a powerband like that they go with a big turbo and make more hp and less tq until later in the powerband.
Scorke
Because my car makes more HP and TQ down low, it has to taper towards the end more so than not making it all the way till redline. Basically I make the same power you do just sooner in the rev range, which is what I have been saying all this time. Its not the sort of shift that a stroker would do which is literally pick up the line and move it to the left and up a little bit, but its a different shape, one where your hp is always rising to make a peak that mine makes early.
When you say I might as well shift at 5800, your damn right i might as well shift then, and thats the whole point of running a GT30R over a 35 or any other larger turbo, you get your power down low, you don't have to rev to redline to make max power. If you do want a powerband like that they go with a big turbo and make more hp and less tq until later in the powerband.
Scorke
500 whp max big, not really, I'd call the 3076 a perfect medium sized turbo. The 3082 or what FP sells as the 3065 for having a 65lb wheel in a 30R i believe, can over 500 whp easy, then there are the 35R's and all there variants, then the "37R", then the 40R and 42R and then up and up, it's not a big turbo. Thats just garret.
I guess what I am trying to explain/get across is that you should be able to make the numbers you make earlier in your rev range. When I am up in NJ over the summer if theres a meet ill take you for a ride and show you what I mean if the kit isn't gone.
Scorke
I guess what I am trying to explain/get across is that you should be able to make the numbers you make earlier in your rev range. When I am up in NJ over the summer if theres a meet ill take you for a ride and show you what I mean if the kit isn't gone.
Scorke
500 whp max big, not really, I'd call the 3076 a perfect medium sized turbo. The 3082 or what FP sells as the 3065 for having a 65lb wheel in a 30R i believe, can over 500 whp easy, then there are the 35R's and all there variants, then the "37R", then the 40R and 42R and then up and up, it's not a big turbo. Thats just garret.
I guess what I am trying to explain/get across is that you should be able to make the numbers you make earlier in your rev range. When I am up in NJ over the summer if theres a meet ill take you for a ride and show you what I mean if the kit isn't gone.
Scorke
I guess what I am trying to explain/get across is that you should be able to make the numbers you make earlier in your rev range. When I am up in NJ over the summer if theres a meet ill take you for a ride and show you what I mean if the kit isn't gone.
Scorke