i work at a performance parts vendor and i sell clutches all day for the evo! all the hondas i have owned last to 100,00... i've seen more that one that's needed to be replaced at 3-5000 miles... i'm no tech pro, but you guys can do the math...

 

I just had the trans taken out to replace 5 gear under warrantee.
This clutch has not been abused. Never made a full-on lunch once. Clutch was 2/3 worn out at 9000 miles. Atrocious, Mitsu needs to do something about this.

 

MPHEVO:
Put in a HKS twin disc and forget about it . as for where your work you guys are banking.....

 

i remember talking to you, i told you i see you on the forums!

 

Yo thanx for the parts.....I am going to run the car this weekend....

 

let me know how you do...

 

My Experience: 1,200 miles, 600 baby miles, 600 normal miles on it. I finally tried to launch it a couple of times tonight, first time I bogged, second time i let the clutch all the way out and the car didn't really accelerate much, it continued to slip with the clutch all the way out and smelled awful. what a piece of ****, even my stock eclipse clutch was better than that. To me that says no clamping force either from the pressure plate or restrictor but I'm no expert. I also have grinded on 2nd gear 4-5 times with the clutch all the way in 2nd gear is super finnicky for some reason. I have an appointment next saturday for them to look at that and why my suspension makes loud thunking/popping sounds when i make sharp or sudden turns, or go up steep inclines at an angle. Now that I can finally drive the thing, it feels underpowered and the driveline is ****ty, I wish I could trade it back in for an STi, or even have my old eclipse back. It also feels like there are no lash adjustment shims in any gearbox, the driveline is so loose it is constantly fighting against itself around turns in spirited driving. It might put up better numbers than a Porsche, but a Porsche has a buttery smooth driveline compared to the F150 4WD driveline in the EVO

 

Great review Einstien..

Now tell me..
Do you really think 1200 miles is long enough to be able to rate the EVO a dud?? (hint. go trade for an STi already) And did you compare the evo to the F word??

Did you OWN a Porsche for any length of time to say what you did with any type of authenticity??(Porsche has a better driveline)

And lastly (yes I know..I have a BIG mouth but...)

Thanks for comparing a $30K to a $70+K PORSCHE.. Maybe you need lash adjustment shims for your brain..

Dimwit.

 

All very constructively critical comments.

I actually appreciate an honest review from someone that's obviously not happy with their car. I think the world is big enough to contain a few negative opinions about the Evo without needing to take it personally.

 

Hey, thanks..Glad you enjoyed them.


It's one thing to speak about the things you don't like about a car with healthy examples and comparisons..

But a tyrade filled with comments like "wishing you could trade it for an STi" and "nowhere near a Porsche tranny" and the best of course.."Ford F150 driveline..."

???

Come on, that isn't a review to guide the unguided..it's baloney..

He must not have test driven the car before he bought it..how could one bad mouth his new car that much??!!

If he hates the car that much I strongly encourage he sell it or go trade it for the beloved STi...

It's negative to hear how poor he feels his car is..

Small percentage like him btw...most LOVE the EVO..

 

If you don't like amateur reviews go read Motor Trend or a similar rag.

I'll just say that any review you read in any magazine is guaranteed to be with a lot less miles than I've driven. It's broken in and been driven around twisties and the like, and yes I think it's been a sufficient amount of time to proclaim that MY EVO has a crappy clutch and quirky jerky driveline. Your experiences may vary. Maybe after I take it back to the dealership on Saturday everything will be fixed. If not, you just might see me at the Subaru lot, but I don't really want to take a $10K hit on trade-in (They will probably only give me $20K for it since it's used now). It's probably worth it to try all the tricks first (replace the clutch, SS clutch line, remove restrictor, change gearbox fluids, etc.) I've noticed reviews in magazines commenting on burnt clutch smells, not being able to do proper 1/4 mile testing because the clutch in the EVO is gone, etc. I just figured they were abused but I guess any spirited driving, or maybe even normal driving, reveals the crappy clutch.
Drove a friends Carrera 4S for a couple of laps. No grinding, no bucking. If you don't believe me go see Porsche forums or read Porsche reviews.
Why not? it's a common car to compare the EVO to because they put up similar numbers. The EVO is sold as a car without all the frills of a luxury sports car, but with all the $$ strategically spent in the right places (i.e. driveline, powerplant). After the 8th iteration of a top of the line performance car, you'd think they would at least get the gearbox/clutch right.


People don't want to see BS like this...Kids these days

 

A small percentage of the people are complaining about clutches and gearboxes?

Of course I test drove the car before I bought it...but I wasn't about to hop in a brand new car I wasn't used to yet, and go ripping around mountain roads at high RPM before the car is broken in. High RPM gear changes and rolling on & off the throttle suddenly is where the driveline really shows the kinks in its armor. If anyone has ever driven an old F150 in 4WD on pavement, this is what it feels like (not to disrespect newer F150's, they seem to have solved this problem). Farting around on a test drive just proves it performs like any other car. I guarantee not very many people really put a car through its paces on a test drive...

And about the baloney...they are just my honest thoughts and opinions...who are you to judge anyway? I'm glad your car is perfect in every way and you have no complaints. Sorry to pollute this thread with anything but praise for my car. Please have the thought police arrest me at once. Maybe we should make you a moderator so you can prune all the bad reviews since they couldn't possibly have any basis in fact or reality, and were obviously fabrications by people who buy $30,000 cars solely for the opportunity to bash them on forums...

 

Great job putting some better and more concise thoughts down..

When I compare your comments in the last few posts to the first, it's like a different person! Did your kid post the first comments or ??

Your responses to my jabs bring out more than the EVO slander that was posted in broken english at first...


All it took was a little more effort and maybe someone not appreciating your comments about the driveline I guess..

Now you have a pulse based on your last posts!!


And you really think the STi has a better driveline??

 

PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND TO YOU IN A POSITIVE WAY BECAUSE YOU ARE SO COMPLETELY NEGATIVE. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS BUT THIS CAR IS 97% RIGHT. I don't expect it to be a Honda Accord or a Porsche. My car handles great and is fast. I'm afraid to put on coilovers because I don't want to screw it up. Mitsubishi really needs to do something about the clutch. If they don't, they will damage their reputation forever.

 

Ignoring the style of your post, I have to say that I agree with
most of it. It is very hard (but possible) to launch this car without
burning the clutch. The best advice that was posted here, and
I confirmed it myself, is to launch using the following technique:

1) Hold the revs at 4000 with the clutch pedal in.
2) Floor the throttle.
3) Just as the RPM's reach 6000, let the clutch out very fast,
keeping the throttle floored. You timing has to be pretty
good here, or you'll hit red-line. You have to start releasing
the clutch just after you floor the throttle.

I tried this only once ('cause I'm pretty sure my clutch is close
to gone) and it worked great. No engine bogging, no burning
smell, tremendous 1st gear acceleration.

Secondly, about the driveline lash, I agree completely. This car
has a tremendous amount of jerkiness in 1st and 2nd gear.
I find it very hard to come off of full throttle to a neutral setting
without the car jerkinng terribly and upsetting the suspension.
This is particularly bad when you get a little too much acceleration
out of a second-gear corner, the rear end is getting loose, and
you just want to fall back to no accelerataion, no engine braking.

I test drove the BMW Z4 and it's driveline is much smoother (and
it's a comparably priced car). That being said, this is one
helluva car for $30K. Nothing under $50K comes close except
for the STi, which I'll bet is just as unrefined.

Oh and another thing -- this car has the *loudest* driveline
I've ever heard. There's gear and diff noises coming at you
from all over. At first I thought the highway noise in the rear
was my tires, but I changed to snows and the same noise is
still there. But you know what? I never hear it when I'm
racing. . . :-)

Michael