Ams Evo Cam Test
Thanks to AMS and all the cam manufacturers for all their hard work.
Personally I am not surprised at the excellent numbers that Kelford has put out. I am currently using a custom grind from them on my nissan vvl build and I have had nothing short of a great experience working with kelford.
Tell them what you are after and they will make sure you have the cams that make power
Personally I am not surprised at the excellent numbers that Kelford has put out. I am currently using a custom grind from them on my nissan vvl build and I have had nothing short of a great experience working with kelford.
Tell them what you are after and they will make sure you have the cams that make power
Kevin, being that I am in the market for a new set of cams, could you elaborate on the difference between your 272 and 280 cams for the Evo 8? Also how do your 272 cams compare to HKS 280 cams?
I am running the same setup as Martin, the only difference is that I am running a 50 trim turbo instead of the 35R. I am specifically interested in a road racing application ... in other words good power, but not so aggressive as to put excessive wear and tear on my valvetrain (supertech).
Thanks,
Markus
I am running the same setup as Martin, the only difference is that I am running a 50 trim turbo instead of the 35R. I am specifically interested in a road racing application ... in other words good power, but not so aggressive as to put excessive wear and tear on my valvetrain (supertech).
Thanks,
Markus
Obviously the magazine and AMS can't build every setup to test, but in my view they have chosen a very common build.
When people are shopping for cams they really need to consult the engine builder, tuner and cam maker to get the correct choice.
The 272 of ours that Martin tested is the 8th iteration of our 272 degree EVO cam, (no one puts more effort into EVO cam R&D than we do) we decreased the seat to seat duration and added more area at higher lifts and this gave us the balance that we have been looking for (good idle, spool and top end)
Because of the low total duration it also works well with smaller turbos than what was tested here.
Big UP'S to Import Tuner mag and AMS for a very good job, and to Motovicity along with their dealer network for supporting our range of products.
Kevin Ban
Managing Director
Kelford Cams
New Zealand
When people are shopping for cams they really need to consult the engine builder, tuner and cam maker to get the correct choice.
The 272 of ours that Martin tested is the 8th iteration of our 272 degree EVO cam, (no one puts more effort into EVO cam R&D than we do) we decreased the seat to seat duration and added more area at higher lifts and this gave us the balance that we have been looking for (good idle, spool and top end)
Because of the low total duration it also works well with smaller turbos than what was tested here.
Big UP'S to Import Tuner mag and AMS for a very good job, and to Motovicity along with their dealer network for supporting our range of products.
Kevin Ban
Managing Director
Kelford Cams
New Zealand
Kevin,
Can your 272 cams be used w/ stock valvetrain w/ the 11mm of lift that they are advertised at reliably or would you recommend upgraded valvetrain?
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Marcus,
I have no experiance with the HKS280 sorry.
For road course racing, if the tracks are like we have here, where you are up and down the gearbox a lot I would be stcking with the 272's, if you are able to wind the thin out plenty I would consider the 280 on the intake side as it will make more top end on that setup.
I have no experiance with the HKS280 sorry.
For road course racing, if the tracks are like we have here, where you are up and down the gearbox a lot I would be stcking with the 272's, if you are able to wind the thin out plenty I would consider the 280 on the intake side as it will make more top end on that setup.
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Although the stock spring will not coil bind, it does not have enough valve control at raised boost and rpm levels, then if you miss a gear and buzz the engine, you have no safety margin.
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Kelford VS S2. S2 is the darker line. Is Martin going to post his conclusions on the testing? Were the cams also tested at a higher boost level, are those resluts going to be put up?
Last edited by JC evo1; Jun 10, 2008 at 07:18 PM.
Marcus,
I have no experiance with the HKS280 sorry.
For road course racing, if the tracks are like we have here, where you are up and down the gearbox a lot I would be stcking with the 272's, if you are able to wind the thin out plenty I would consider the 280 on the intake side as it will make more top end on that setup.
I have no experiance with the HKS280 sorry.
For road course racing, if the tracks are like we have here, where you are up and down the gearbox a lot I would be stcking with the 272's, if you are able to wind the thin out plenty I would consider the 280 on the intake side as it will make more top end on that setup.
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Edit: Hmm...on the Kelford website they have one a step below the 272's. 264/270. Seems comparable to the GSC S1's roughly.
Last edited by RyeLou; Jun 10, 2008 at 08:48 PM.
That seems to me to be a lift issue and not a Kelford issue. With 11.0mm of lift, most companies I've seen at least recommend upgraded springs and retainers.
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Last edited by Talonboost; Jun 10, 2008 at 11:27 PM.
Obviously the magazine and AMS can't build every setup to test, but in my view they have chosen a very common build.
When people are shopping for cams they really need to consult the engine builder, tuner and cam maker to get the correct choice.
The 272 of ours that Martin tested is the 8th iteration of our 272 degree EVO cam, (no one puts more effort into EVO cam R&D than we do) we decreased the seat to seat duration and added more area at higher lifts and this gave us the balance that we have been looking for (good idle, spool and top end)
Because of the low total duration it also works well with smaller turbos than what was tested here.
Big UP'S to Import Tuner mag and AMS for a very good job, and to Motovicity along with their dealer network for supporting our range of products.
Kevin Ban
Managing Director
Kelford Cams
New Zealand
When people are shopping for cams they really need to consult the engine builder, tuner and cam maker to get the correct choice.
The 272 of ours that Martin tested is the 8th iteration of our 272 degree EVO cam, (no one puts more effort into EVO cam R&D than we do) we decreased the seat to seat duration and added more area at higher lifts and this gave us the balance that we have been looking for (good idle, spool and top end)
Because of the low total duration it also works well with smaller turbos than what was tested here.
Big UP'S to Import Tuner mag and AMS for a very good job, and to Motovicity along with their dealer network for supporting our range of products.
Kevin Ban
Managing Director
Kelford Cams
New Zealand