New BW EFR Turbo Thread
Bonus Pic: My complete Origin Fabrication downpipe + testpipe. 6.2 pounds!!
Untitled by Alex Whitacre, on Flickr
Untitled by Alex Whitacre, on Flickr
Do you have all the specs for that car listed out somewhere? Clutch, turbine housing a/r, drivetrain mods, stuff like that. What clutch do you use LOL?
Last edited by Talonboost; Oct 3, 2016 at 04:15 PM.
For those who like to read until they weep, here ya go;
http://www.matweb.com/search/QuickTe...chText=inconel
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They're not lightweight materials, at least not in the sense of aluminum or titanium alloys. They have about the same density as steels. However, some Inconels are very strong and could therefore be made into ultrathin wall tubing that can be lighter than 304SS tubing. More than likely its Inconel 625 as that seems to be the Inconel of choice for exhaust systems. It comes in a variety of heat treat conditions, some of which produce very high strength but also reduced formability. No matter what, it was definitely expensive.
Last edited by mrfred; Oct 2, 2016 at 09:30 PM.
thing about inconell is its strength and corrosion resistance AT ELEVATED TEMPS... that is why NA exhaust manifolds out of that stuff use something like 0.7 mm wall thickness..
biggest problem with DP and exhausts in general is that the stuff we can buy commercially is relatively thick walled for our purpose... the exhaust could comfortably be made from 1 mm walled 308 SS but instead it is usually 1.5 mm or so.. hence the weight..
as for TI.. it doesnt like high temps so DP is fine but primary manifold NO, although some companies such as Akrapovic do use it in that application, but for cars with lots of airflow over the primary manifold (porsche turbo) and they use a combo of tubing and cast TI parts which allows them to change material thickness at will..
biggest problem with DP and exhausts in general is that the stuff we can buy commercially is relatively thick walled for our purpose... the exhaust could comfortably be made from 1 mm walled 308 SS but instead it is usually 1.5 mm or so.. hence the weight..
as for TI.. it doesnt like high temps so DP is fine but primary manifold NO, although some companies such as Akrapovic do use it in that application, but for cars with lots of airflow over the primary manifold (porsche turbo) and they use a combo of tubing and cast TI parts which allows them to change material thickness at will..
They're not lightweight materials, at least not in the sense of aluminum or titanium alloys. They have about the same density as steels. However, some Inconels are very strong and could therefore be made into ultrathin wall tubing that can be lighter than 304SS tubing. More than likely its Inconel 625 as that seems to be the Inconel of choice for exhaust systems. It comes in a variety of heat treat conditions, some of which produce very high strength but also reduced formability. No matter what, it was definitely expensive.
Inconel would be better than Ti for something that close to the turbo, the price would not be a lot different considering you used a nice grade of Titanium.
The downpipe isn't supporting any weight and Ti would keep the heat in better.
Unless a rotary is in question, Inconel on most exhaust components for a non endurance applications is cool, but not especially cost or usage effective. This is especially true for a sub 5-600 WHP ICE street car that only sees a few seconds on full throttle at a time or a trackday or TT street vehicle.
I don't think anyon is trying to make the case that an Inconel exhaust is a necessary addition to anyone's car here.
If I had the choice between Inconel and Titanium for the downpipe, I would personally choose inconel, which I did. I'm not sure I would want to track down a titanium flex section to weld into a Ti downpipe.
If I had the choice between Inconel and Titanium for the downpipe, I would personally choose inconel, which I did. I'm not sure I would want to track down a titanium flex section to weld into a Ti downpipe.
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