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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Hey guys,just a bit of information here,i had a bit of trouble with the wastegate on this turbo,not a biggie though,i found out it was very sensitive to wg preload making it problematic to spool adequately,well today i cut off the wg flapper so it wouldn't be in the way since i decided to go external wastegate and this is what i found,i'm not sure how big the factory wastegate flapper is but this one is huge imo,almost 49mm ! ,even my Turbosmart is only 45mm lol.
Hello. I have the same problem with my 25g and i had to modify the exhaust manifold with an adaptation and test it:







The next week I will finish up my clutch and road to see how it works !!!
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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Sorry its been a while since I updated this, but you guys know I was building a 2.3 stroker for this turbo setup to see what it could do against a 2.3 I built last year. His setup has the FP HTA71. We will be running the same boost, have the same tuner, and will utilizing the same fuel as well. So, on to the pics!







After her first start, first oil change, and first 20 miles about to get her second oil change


Currently the new motor has 730 miles on it....and I built it on the 26th of May. lol took me only 4 days to get it done! Long story short, I dropped the motor off for machining and balancing on the 21st got it back on the 24th, put it together after cleaning it on the 25th, installed it on the 26th had it running that night, drove her on the 27th! The break-in tune is very conservative and has allowed me to be able to perform full pulls (hard break-in) with no knock and safe but not pig rich afr's. The car's boost has also been turned down a tad so that I wont get too happy with the loud pedal. But at only 17psi it surprised a 600cc CBR. Id say this turbo is going to be well worth its wait for certain. I cant wait to crank it up to 25+psi. Stay tuned!
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Very, very nice.
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Hello. I have the same problem with my 25g and i had to modify the exhaust manifold with an adaptation and test it:







The next week I will finish up my clutch and road to see how it works !!!
looks great man. you did a good job with your external wastegate setup! and the placement is perfect. imo, id recommend external wastegate over internal wastegate for big turbos like these. much more acurate and precise and does hold boost a lot better. only thing is that its fugging loud, like straight pipe loud. you can recirculate the gases back into the exhaust track to quiet it down, but its all what you want to accomplish. i attached a pic of my setup with the external wastegate unit. its not a evo mani, but you get the idea. for me, open dump equals win!
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JSPturbo
Hello. I have the same problem with my 25g and i had to modify the exhaust manifold with an adaptation and test it:



The next week I will finish up my clutch and road to see how it works !!!
So you're venting off both "scrolls" here?

Have you put a divider in to stop the scrolls mixing before the external wastegate is open?
If you haven't, expect 600-900 worse spool.
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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This is what i did with mine,hoping to test it soon.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 03:56 AM
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viii driver what have you done in order to ensure that your seal between the o2 dump and the hotside wont leak i was thinking about your setup the other day and realized there would be a large loss in efficiency of the wastegate if you had any leaks there
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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viii driver what have you done in order to ensure that your seal between the o2 dump and the hotside wont leak i was thinking about your setup the other day and realized there would be a large loss in efficiency of the wastegate if you had any leaks there

I used a fully divided gasket to fully seal each circuit without leaks,as in the pics,the Muse O2 dump i used came with a fully divided gasket already ,my engine is running already but i have to figure out a lifter noise i have before i break it in and get some numbers.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RSMike
So you're venting off both "scrolls" here?

Have you put a divider in to stop the scrolls mixing before the external wastegate is open?
If you haven't, expect 600-900 worse spool.
Hello. No,on the inner side only two exhaust manifold outlet go to the wastegate.

On the next days i will log with EvoScan and VD and post it !!!
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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to viii driver i figured that was the case i guess my only concern was warping in the flange relative to the hotside my thoughts were possibly to have the flange machined perfectly flat to ensure and solid seal
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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that will certainly control boost fine. but you killed the twin scroll effect during spool up by joining runners 1 and 2. you will gain about 400rpm lag
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe


that will certainly control boost fine. but you killed the twin scroll effect during spool up by joining runners 1 and 2. you will gain about 400rpm lag
Hello. The runner 1 and 2 are separated from the wastegate discharge,only the 1 and 4 "discharge" to wastegate side.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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to viii driver i figured that was the case i guess my only concern was warping in the flange relative to the hotside my thoughts were possibly to have the flange machined perfectly flat to ensure and solid seal
Got it,i didn't notice any warping once the welding was done,i'll keep an eye on it though, can't wait to go full out on this thing,my GSC lifters will be here next week and after that i think i can start tuning it and seeing what it can do.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JSPturbo
Hello. The runner 1 and 2 are separated from the wastegate discharge,only the 1 and 4 "discharge" to wastegate side.


you can clearly see the wastegate is open to the no 2 runner as well as runners 1/4.

you are going to loose 400 rpm spool or more.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe


you can clearly see the wastegate is open to the no 2 runner as well as runners 1/4.

you are going to loose 400 rpm spool or more.
Hello. Yes, in the picture was not yet modified

Without the modification I have tested a lot of Lag, like a Vtec engine
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Old Jun 30, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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yo guys to anyone running this turbo w a stroker, what size injectors r u running for 93?
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