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Old May 10, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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I work on german cars for a living, and while BMW is the most solid of all of them, they dont hold a candle to the evo. Enjoy the 335 though, they're money pits for sure.
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Old May 10, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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I'll let it go after this post but I didn't spend a dime on maintenance on either of my 335is over the last 6 years. Last one was pretty highly modified and did 446HP/480TQ. Lets see, tranny broke 2 weeks after getting the EVO, TC broke first night at the drag strip and I blew an engine. Engine was more my fault but regardless. EVO has been a money pit for sure.

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I work on german cars for a living, and while BMW is the most solid of all of them, they dont hold a candle to the evo. Enjoy the 335 though, they're money pits for sure.
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Old May 10, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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OK so..... Here is what I'm doing. After talking to everyone from MAP to English and DB and AMS, I've decided to go with the following. Block and crank are at the machine shop now:

4G64 block: Bored .020, honed, decked, line bored, crank balanced and polished
no orings
no squirters
87mm cometic HG
1400HD Weisco Pistons
Map Ultimate Duty Rods
ARP main studs
L19 Head Studs
ACL Race bearings
03 outlander water pump
new oil pump
OEM balance shaft delete
Head was also shaved, it warped after I blew the head gasket
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Old May 11, 2013 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdnno98
OK so..... Here is what I'm doing. After talking to everyone from MAP to English and DB and AMS, I've decided to go with the following. Block and crank are at the machine shop now:

4G64 block: Bored .020, honed, decked, line bored, crank balanced and polished
no orings
no squirters
87mm cometic HG
1400HD Weisco Pistons
Map Ultimate Duty Rods
ARP main studs
L19 Head Studs
ACL Race bearings
03 outlander water pump
new oil pump
OEM balance shaft delete
Head was also shaved, it warped after I blew the head gasket
Looks good, what are you looking at for final purchase price on all that?


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I'll let it go after this post but I didn't spend a dime on maintenance on either of my 335is over the last 6 years. Last one was pretty highly modified and did 446HP/480TQ. Lets see, tranny broke 2 weeks after getting the EVO, TC broke first night at the drag strip and I blew an engine. Engine was more my fault but regardless. EVO has been a money pit for sure.
Still standing by my original comment and a small snicker at a price check of a 335i motor. Just an odd comparison, but hopefully you'll have better luck in the future.

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Old May 11, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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People don't blow 335i motors though. 725hp on stock block so far. Plus one of the smartest ECUa ever made too. Anyways
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Old May 11, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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$25,000

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...2#post10794472
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Old May 11, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Or did you mean price point for the motor? I paid $1900 for parts, $475 for block and crank, $600 at the machine shop, + labor. Prob $3800 all together with new oil and waterpump
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Old May 11, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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But I also sold my 2.0 block for $800 and have my 4G63 crank for sale for $250 so hopefully ill recoup $1050 and only spend $2750 on the whole new setup with labor. Not too bad I guess.
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Old May 12, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Have you confirm the 03 water pump from an outlander will bolt on strait to the block and not have any issues?
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:08 AM
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Yes. The only 2 issues it has have already been mentioned.
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mario's evo 9
Have you confirm the 03 water pump from an outlander will bolt on strait to the block and not have any issues?
Its bolts right up. However, you will need to trim one of the bolt mounts for the alternator bracket to line up properly.
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Old May 13, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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Its bolts right up. However, you will need to trim one of the bolt mounts for the alternator bracket to line up properly.
Can you show a picture of what needs to be trimmed?
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Old May 13, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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For your evo9 you won't have to trim it, it only applies to the evo8 due to the alternator bracket. The pulley will potentially rub the timing cover a little as it sits in a touch. On mine I just shaved the cover a touch.
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Old May 13, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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Can you show a picture of what needs to be trimmed?
Yes. Im going to post more pics once my build is complete and I hear it run this friday.
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Old May 20, 2013 | 05:56 AM
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It runs. Pics will be posted tomorrow morning.
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