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Old Oct 9, 2017 | 05:14 AM
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found out yesterday my turbo seized from the blown motor ;(

Also, what should I gap this at?
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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found out yesterday my turbo seized from the blown motor ;(

Also, what should I gap this at?
Oh man! Hah, that plug is thoroughly fubar'd. Any chance you are able to rebuild the turbo?
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 01:17 PM
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Oh man! Hah, that plug is thoroughly fubar'd. Any chance you are able to rebuild the turbo?
It's spinning now , but not sure why it wasn't spinning before. Still going to send it out to CRBD for an inspection/rebuild.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 05:26 AM
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Finally got to pull the motor...This weekend I'll strip the motor down and I'm hoping the head is still good

Cracked block, looks to be align with cylinder 1



Not sure if a rod did this?? This is the oil pan.

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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 08:00 AM
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Finally got around to tearing the motor apart. Looks like Cylinder one completely shattered and is in the oil pan. Cylinder 2 looks to be melted/shattered. Head is completely destroyed






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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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Dang! Looks like the piston ring was the only thing left holding that piston together. What the heck! There are so many sinister and creative ways that these engines fail.
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 03:10 PM
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Did the timing belt fail at high rpm?
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 04:37 PM
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Approximate Date: December 2015

Year: 2006

Mileage: 100,000

Modifications: Stock Block, Full bolt ons (stock turbo), Dual map tune E85/91

Power: ~400WHP/411WTQ

What Happened?: Piston #4 melted driving on track at Laguna Seca

Solution: Complete rebuild with brand new block, forged internals, etc.

Why?: Not 100% sure, but the consensus is running lean just on that cylinder (despite running E85). Possible injector malfunction.

Thread: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...week-hell.html
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blackline
Finally got to pull the motor...This weekend I'll strip the motor down and I'm hoping the head is still good

Cracked block, looks to be align with cylinder 1



Not sure if a rod did this?? This is the oil pan.
Has to be a rod that caused the hole in the pan and the block to crack. Keep us updated.
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blackline
Finally got around to tearing the motor apart. Looks like Cylinder one completely shattered and is in the oil pan. Cylinder 2 looks to be melted/shattered. Head is completely destroyed






That looks like an extreme example of broken ringlands.
Surely a catch can would fix it?
Plus making the vents all bigger..........it always works.

It even stops the dipstick from blowing out.


Check the sparkplugs.........there's oil on the threads.

Tells you you've broken the ringlands.

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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 07:03 PM
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Wow, talk about a meltdown....

Looks like 3 different failure modes all in one engine lol.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pal215
Dang! Looks like the piston ring was the only thing left holding that piston together. What the heck! There are so many sinister and creative ways that these engines fail.

yep, only the ring was holding that piston together

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Did the timing belt fail at high rpm?
I don't think so as the belt was in good shape when we pulled the head off. Maybe jumped timing??

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Has to be a rod that caused the hole in the pan and the block to crack. Keep us updated.
Piston and rod for cylinder 1 are in the oil pan, I'll get around to remove the oil pan this weekend.

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That looks like an extreme example of broken ringlands.
Surely a catch can would fix it?
Plus making the vents all bigger..........it always works.

It even stops the dipstick from blowing out.


Check the sparkplugs.........there's oil on the threads.

Tells you you've broken the ringlands.
Didn't have any spark plugs left . I just got my hands on a STM 3port VTA OCC just incase

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Wow, talk about a meltdown....

Looks like 3 different failure modes all in one engine lol.
tell me about it.

Maybe I should start a build thread on this
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blackline

Maybe I should start a build thread on this
Now would be a great opportunity to do so!
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Now would be a great opportunity to do so!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/pr...l#post11781790
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ExViTermini
Wow, talk about a meltdown....

Looks like 3 different failure modes all in one engine lol.

Just ongoing and excessive detonation.

Once they get a bit of blowby, the oil reduces the octane rating and it detonates more and more and more.
If you've got an aftermarket ECU, the knock detection won't work.
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