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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Az3ar, was your car the one that got tuned at Shiv's over the weekend. I was just wondering because I heard about the results from a couple people.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Az3ar, was your car the one that got tuned at Shiv's over the weekend. I was just wondering because I heard about the results from a couple people.
Yes, that was Az3ar's car on Shiv's dyno. He ended up with 323whp on 97 octane. Az3ar drove me to Berkeley in his car afterwards and I can attest to the fact that it pulls very nice (quite a bit better than my stage 1+ on race gas). However, that car is in desperate need of of few more mods in order to make the most of the setup.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Yea Yea, My clutch is dying and I need Cams and cam-shaft.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I will post the dyno today as I have the DD results here.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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The ATP kit seems to be held in high regard b/c of the price, quality and performance it delivers. I wanted to get your insite on it. What type of 1/4 mile times could be expected for it? Are low 11's in the 1/4 mile out of the question on 104 octane? From a Vishnu stg 1, what exactly would i need in addition to an ATP GT3071R turbokit, 660 Denso injectors and W fuel pump 255 to net 450-500WHP on 93 octane? Is this even possible to do with this set up?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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I think Shiv is gone to the Car and Driver Supertuners shootout. Let me, EZ76, and Evotomig take a stab at your questions.

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The ATP kit seems to be held in high regard b/c of the price, quality and performance it delivers. I wanted to get your insite on it. What type of 1/4 mile times could be expected for it? Are low 11's in the 1/4 mile out of the question on 104 octane?

Personally, I don't think the 3071 setup will ever run low 11s. Mid to high 11's will be easily attainable though.

From a Vishnu stg 1, what exactly would i need in addition to an ATP GT3071R turbokit, 660 Denso injectors and W fuel pump 255 to net 450-500WHP on 93 octane? Is this even possible to do with this set up?

Yep, injectors and fuel pump will be necessary. No way 450 to 500whp on 93 though. On Shiv's dyno, you might see 320 whp on 93 with a full Stage 1 with cat delete. On a dyno jet, you will be a lot higher than 320 but I couldn't guess the number...
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Me and Smoggunner might not agree on this however. that does not mean that one of us is wrong. I think that with a good clutch and a good driver you will make mid 11s with this turbo with delete cat pipe. with cams, cam gears, bigger intercooler and nice high flow manifold you will be able to brake in 10 sec no problems and that will be it. thats what i think

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The ATP kit seems to be held in high regard b/c of the price, quality and performance it delivers. I wanted to get your insite on it. What type of 1/4 mile times could be expected for it? Are low 11's in the 1/4 mile out of the question on 104 octane? From a Vishnu stg 1, what exactly would i need in addition to an ATP GT3071R turbokit, 660 Denso injectors and W fuel pump 255 to net 450-500WHP on 93 octane? Is this even possible to do with this set up?
Very interested.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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I think I am around high 11s very high 11s lol
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by evowilling
Shiv:
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The ATP kit seems to be held in high regard b/c of the price, quality and performance it delivers. I wanted to get your insite on it. What type of 1/4 mile times could be expected for it? Are low 11's in the 1/4 mile out of the question on 104 octane? From a Vishnu stg 1, what exactly would i need in addition to an ATP GT3071R turbokit, 660 Denso injectors and W fuel pump 255 to net 450-500WHP on 93 octane? Is this even possible to do with this set up?
Very interested.
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On pump 3071r is not going to make 450whp on pump gas on a dyno jet. It's just not going to happen.

3037s will make with all supporting mods and cat delete might brake 400whp on the dyno jet with pump gas. (272s all around).

323X1.18=381.14 dyno jet power.

But hey that guy had nothing done to the motor and throw the stock cat at 97octaine.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Well now I am making about 340whp on dynojet with 91 pump. if I get cams, cam-gears, headers, intake headers, intercooler and water injection kit. I should hit 400 whp easy which what exactly wanted
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
This turbo can boost up to 30psi no problems as my research shows. It can run up to 450whp atleats with good tunning.
Is that 450WHP on 93 octane or race gas? What mods exactly did you have on your car when you achieved that figure?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by evowilling
Shiv:
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The ATP kit seems to be held in high regard b/c of the price, quality and performance it delivers. I wanted to get your insite on it. What type of 1/4 mile times could be expected for it? Are low 11's in the 1/4 mile out of the question on 104 octane? From a Vishnu stg 1, what exactly would i need in addition to an ATP GT3071R turbokit, 660 Denso injectors and W fuel pump 255 to net 450-500WHP on 93 octane? Is this even possible to do with this set up?
Very interested.
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ATP is claiming 450 flywheel hp from this kit. About mid 300s on Shiv's dyno.
That will NOT get anyone into 10s. W/ cams,camgears,cat delete and about 360-380 whp on c16 racegas on a Vishnu dyno that's about 11.3 to 11.6 @ about 120mph IMHO. With a good clutch.
This kit even w/ all the supporting mods in the world will not make 450-500 whp on the poor 93. The octane is too low.

My 0.02 cents

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It's a good street kit, but not a great drag kit.

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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My buddy EVOtomig. . my setup right now is making around 425 HP to the fly wheel on race gas right? so do you really belive that I cant forke out another 70 or 80 whp with some nice mods?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
My buddy EVOtomig. . my setup right now is making around 425 HP to the fly wheel on race gas right? so do you really belive that I cant forke out another 70 or 80 whp with some nice mods?
It's not just adding whp from mods; it's also how much can that turbo flow??
Can it flow 410whp on Shiv's dyno?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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FWIW, my guess is that the GT3071 should be able to support 350-360whp on our DD dyno (with cams, gears, full exhaust, race gas, etc,.). The GT3037 shouldn't have a problem hitting 400-410whp in a similarly equipped car. And the GT35R should be good for nearly 500whp, all things equal. To translate to 2wd Dynojet numbers, multiply by 1.25 The impressive thing about Garret's GT series is that they are able to make make suprisingly good power with surprisingly good spool-up. Much more responsive and efficient than circa-70s standard T-series turbos.

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