Random Misfire 0300: Dealership reflash available...
Originally Posted by 32E
BJai-
Are you saying that you think the new injectors and the reflash leaned out the motor a little? I still am waiting on the injectors, but have already had the reflash, and that thing still spues soot from the tailpipe...Does your car seem to be making more power?? Any stronger above 5500rpm? Mine is just flat north of 5500rpm...
Are you saying that you think the new injectors and the reflash leaned out the motor a little? I still am waiting on the injectors, but have already had the reflash, and that thing still spues soot from the tailpipe...Does your car seem to be making more power?? Any stronger above 5500rpm? Mine is just flat north of 5500rpm...
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Originally Posted by 32E
BJai-
Are you saying that you think the new injectors and the reflash leaned out the motor a little? I still am waiting on the injectors, but have already had the reflash, and that thing still spues soot from the tailpipe...Does your car seem to be making more power?? Any stronger above 5500rpm? Mine is just flat north of 5500rpm...
Are you saying that you think the new injectors and the reflash leaned out the motor a little? I still am waiting on the injectors, but have already had the reflash, and that thing still spues soot from the tailpipe...Does your car seem to be making more power?? Any stronger above 5500rpm? Mine is just flat north of 5500rpm...
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Originally Posted by RaysurX
Originally Posted by RaysurX
Ok.
08/12/04 (Dated so that I can update as needed)
Got the Mitsu reflash last Saturday. Since then, I've put on about 300 miles and today after driving to work and while idling to cool down.... I get the ugly glowing light shining in my dash again.... argh. BTW. Bone stock car.
I won't know for sure what the code is until I get it pulled..... but I've only been getting PO300's...
Secret Chimp... I went to xxxxxxx Mitsu too.... I guess I need to call Doug or Matt to see what happens next.
Love the car and the service at the dealer... but my faith in the quality and response by CORP MITSU is dwindling...
08/14/04 (Saturday) 10:00am- Update
SES code was the 300 code again.
Tech re-flashed it again and we took it for a test drive to try to replicate the SES again. No luck Gonna give it another try... if I get it again.... I was told Mitsu would be called and we would go to the next step to try to troubleshoot. Everytime I have gottent the 300, I have NOT noticed any hesitation while driving as described by some others....
Will update my post like this as more develops....
2nd update of the day
08/14/04 (Saturday)4:00pm
No more than 8 hrs after the re-flash..... again the SES light pops on.
Again... bone stock car. Normal (not extreme) driving style.
More as it develops.
08/16/04 (Monday)
Spoke to Service Manager at dealer.... Trying to arrange a Mitsu rep to take a look at my car. More later.
08/23/04 (Monday)
Mitsu rep looked at my car. Authorized injector replacement, however I don't believe the dealer techs could conclusively determine (via diagnostics) that injectors were an issue. Plugs appeared to be to spec also. Again, in my case... the dealer is doing everything they can to the best of their knowledge and what Mitsu corp is allowing them to do.....
Ok.
08/12/04 (Dated so that I can update as needed)
Got the Mitsu reflash last Saturday. Since then, I've put on about 300 miles and today after driving to work and while idling to cool down.... I get the ugly glowing light shining in my dash again.... argh. BTW. Bone stock car.
I won't know for sure what the code is until I get it pulled..... but I've only been getting PO300's...
Secret Chimp... I went to xxxxxxx Mitsu too.... I guess I need to call Doug or Matt to see what happens next.
Love the car and the service at the dealer... but my faith in the quality and response by CORP MITSU is dwindling...
08/14/04 (Saturday) 10:00am- Update
SES code was the 300 code again.
Tech re-flashed it again and we took it for a test drive to try to replicate the SES again. No luck Gonna give it another try... if I get it again.... I was told Mitsu would be called and we would go to the next step to try to troubleshoot. Everytime I have gottent the 300, I have NOT noticed any hesitation while driving as described by some others....
Will update my post like this as more develops....
2nd update of the day
08/14/04 (Saturday)4:00pm
No more than 8 hrs after the re-flash..... again the SES light pops on.
Again... bone stock car. Normal (not extreme) driving style.
More as it develops.
08/16/04 (Monday)
Spoke to Service Manager at dealer.... Trying to arrange a Mitsu rep to take a look at my car. More later.
08/23/04 (Monday)
Mitsu rep looked at my car. Authorized injector replacement, however I don't believe the dealer techs could conclusively determine (via diagnostics) that injectors were an issue. Plugs appeared to be to spec also. Again, in my case... the dealer is doing everything they can to the best of their knowledge and what Mitsu corp is allowing them to do.....
08/27/04 (Friday)
Injectors in..... but in my case Mitsu tech also ordered other testing which yielded issues...I will detail shortly as I don't have a lot of information yet.
BTW.. for those of you waiting for injectors.. My dealership had a HARD time finding a set. (This is what I was told). They could not find any on the west coast and finally found a set back east and had them overnighted.
Last edited by RaysurX; Aug 27, 2004 at 08:44 AM.
its almost been a month and still NO SES light on the P0300... Thank god..... continuous driving back and forth from work with a round trip of 400 plus miles 2X a week..... It sucks to see that they still have not figured out the problem....
OFF Subject:::::But now past wednesday on the way to work we hit a Large Dog / Coyotte (dont know) On the 101 N. Took out the Bumper, Intercooler, DS Fender, DS Light It sucks
But still no P0300 SES Light
OFF Subject:::::But now past wednesday on the way to work we hit a Large Dog / Coyotte (dont know) On the 101 N. Took out the Bumper, Intercooler, DS Fender, DS Light It sucks
But still no P0300 SES Light
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SES is back on...gotta call the dealership today and see if they have those injectors and plugs. From what everyone is saying, this will not solve anything, but I have to go through the motions for a buyback procedure...Is anyone else getting a nasty vibration at speed on light throttle that goes away after you let off completely and then get back on it?
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Originally Posted by RaysurX
Originally Posted by RaysurX
Ok.
08/12/04 (Dated so that I can update as needed)
Got the Mitsu reflash last Saturday. Since then, I've put on about 300 miles and today after driving to work and while idling to cool down.... I get the ugly glowing light shining in my dash again.... argh. BTW. Bone stock car.
I won't know for sure what the code is until I get it pulled..... but I've only been getting PO300's...
Secret Chimp... I went to xxxxxxx Mitsu too.... I guess I need to call Doug or Matt to see what happens next.
Love the car and the service at the dealer... but my faith in the quality and response by CORP MITSU is dwindling...
08/14/04 (Saturday) 10:00am- Update
SES code was the 300 code again.
Tech re-flashed it again and we took it for a test drive to try to replicate the SES again. No luck Gonna give it another try... if I get it again.... I was told Mitsu would be called and we would go to the next step to try to troubleshoot. Everytime I have gottent the 300, I have NOT noticed any hesitation while driving as described by some others....
Will update my post like this as more develops....
2nd update of the day
08/14/04 (Saturday)4:00pm
No more than 8 hrs after the re-flash..... again the SES light pops on.
Again... bone stock car. Normal (not extreme) driving style.
More as it develops.
08/16/04 (Monday)
Spoke to Service Manager at dealer.... Trying to arrange a Mitsu rep to take a look at my car. More later.
08/23/04 (Monday)
Mitsu rep looked at my car. Authorized injector replacement, however I don't believe the dealer techs could conclusively determine (via diagnostics) that injectors were an issue. Plugs appeared to be to spec also. Again, in my case... the dealer is doing everything they can to the best of their knowledge and what Mitsu corp is allowing them to do.....
08/27/04 (Friday)
Injectors in..... but in my case Mitsu tech also ordered other testing which yielded issues...I will detail shortly as I don't have a lot of information yet.
09/02/04 (Thursday)
Injectors were installed and techline also approved a "leakdown" test of my 4 cylinders due to irregularities in idle readings prior to the injector swap. Cylinder 1 yielded leakage issues and the piston and/or rings being are replaced..... I guess after my car is put back together...THEN..... they will try to replicate the CEL again....... more later.
Originally Posted by 32E
SES is back on...gotta call the dealership today and see if they have those injectors and plugs. From what everyone is saying, this will not solve anything, but I have to go through the motions for a buyback procedure...Is anyone else getting a nasty vibration at speed on light throttle that goes away after you let off completely and then get back on it?
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Chris-
I had the vibration before, I just didnt know if others were experiencing actual drivability issues as severe as mine...
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
I had the vibration before, I just didnt know if others were experiencing actual drivability issues as severe as mine...
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
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Originally Posted by 32E
Chris-
(snip)
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
(snip)
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
Originally Posted by 32E
Chris-
I had the vibration before, I just didnt know if others were experiencing actual drivability issues as severe as mine...
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
I had the vibration before, I just didnt know if others were experiencing actual drivability issues as severe as mine...
Ray- They are absolutely ripping apart that engine. Rings and seals? YIKES! Couple of quick questions...1. Were you able to see the inners of the engine during tear-down? 2. If so, did there appear to be damage due to detonation? 3. What affects do you think this will have on the long term longevity of the motor?
-Fritz
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I just got back from the dealer after they reprogrammed the PCM with the software from Mitsu. I'd had the SES light for six weeks. It drives like a new car. Very smooth, fat powerband. I had the hesitation numerous people mentioned before. I didn't realize how crappy it was driving until I got it fixed.
Motorworld in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. Very good buying and service experience for me so far. 23K on car, bone stock.
Motorworld in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. Very good buying and service experience for me so far. 23K on car, bone stock.
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I am taking the car in this morning...it is getting injectors and plugs...
Highmileage- I wish you the best, but I'd give it less than a week before that light comes back on. It isn't the engine ecu programming causing the problem. It is an inherant vibration in the transmission, and the ecu just goes into limp home mode. That's why after they reset the ecu, you feel more power...don't worry it will return, the worst is not over!!!
I'll let you know what becomes of the plugs and injectors...
hey webguy-? You get another Bimmer yet? I am thinking about what I might purchase if Mitsu buys this clunker back...
-Fritz
Highmileage- I wish you the best, but I'd give it less than a week before that light comes back on. It isn't the engine ecu programming causing the problem. It is an inherant vibration in the transmission, and the ecu just goes into limp home mode. That's why after they reset the ecu, you feel more power...don't worry it will return, the worst is not over!!!
I'll let you know what becomes of the plugs and injectors...
hey webguy-? You get another Bimmer yet? I am thinking about what I might purchase if Mitsu buys this clunker back...
-Fritz
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happened to me on the way to Vegas. It was 103 Deg/F and in 5th Gear moving along petty quick. Dealer in Vegas reset light and did not mention that this was a common problem. Light came back on driving back from Vegas same conditions.
My local dealer (Victorville Mitsu) didnt have a clue. I called Norco Mitsu and they were aware of the re-flash. I took the car to them and they had trouble doing the re-flash. they told me that they tried 3 times and my ECM would not take the flash, half way thru the download it would quit.
I was told they would have to call Mitsu Tech support on Tuesday. It was a Sat and they were closed.
I drove the car another 300 miles on Sunday and the light has not returned. Do I let this Dealer try again?
Do I go to another Dealer?
Do I leave it alone as long as the light stays off?
What about buying a obd-11 code reader and throwing in in the trunk, can this be used to reset the light and keep going?
Does Anyone in Southern California know a competent Dealer, or good EVO Mechanic.
Maybe I should pull the ECM and send to Vishnu?
Thanks in advance.
04 RS 6700 miles.
My local dealer (Victorville Mitsu) didnt have a clue. I called Norco Mitsu and they were aware of the re-flash. I took the car to them and they had trouble doing the re-flash. they told me that they tried 3 times and my ECM would not take the flash, half way thru the download it would quit.
I was told they would have to call Mitsu Tech support on Tuesday. It was a Sat and they were closed.
I drove the car another 300 miles on Sunday and the light has not returned. Do I let this Dealer try again?
Do I go to another Dealer?
Do I leave it alone as long as the light stays off?
What about buying a obd-11 code reader and throwing in in the trunk, can this be used to reset the light and keep going?
Does Anyone in Southern California know a competent Dealer, or good EVO Mechanic.
Maybe I should pull the ECM and send to Vishnu?
Thanks in advance.
04 RS 6700 miles.
Last edited by zmeli; Sep 13, 2004 at 11:51 AM.
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Originally Posted by zmeli
... they told me that they tried 3 times and my ECM would not take the flash, half way thru the download it would quit.
SC~ who is still waiting for the lawyers to straighten out his 0300 issue
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That sounds reasonable, I talked to Vishnu today, the memory mapping is different for the 04 I am surprised that the Mitus Tech did not know that the flash was 03 specific. I was told that the recall was vin specific? I wish that i would have seen the actual recall (tsp). I think they looked at my ecm to check for a piggy back. My car is stock. Vishnu told me that if I let them do a re-flash that they would not be able to flash my ecm anymore. They think that the Mitsu re-flash is changing the code from 03 to 04 specs and Vishnu will not have the new mapping code until next week.
I hope they did not corrupt the data or code in my ecm, if that is possible?
I do not think that the Mitsu re-flash will do any good at speed, I think that it is a bad idle fix only.
I hope they did not corrupt the data or code in my ecm, if that is possible?
I do not think that the Mitsu re-flash will do any good at speed, I think that it is a bad idle fix only.
Last edited by zmeli; Sep 13, 2004 at 04:15 PM.