I think I have posted this in a different thread, but this is my theory wrt breaking the lip on the TB.... I think its due to using smaller tbolts. Eitherway...I hope FB do the right thing to their customers.

 

I haven't heard of any issues with our TB's in a long time. PM me with any questions.

 

can any other knowledgeable people weigh in on whether I'll have problems putting a 65mm TB on a 70mm plenum?

MAPerformance who sold me the IM/TB combo?

should I consider getting my IM modified by somehow putting material back and smoothed out?

I don't know if FBM will help me out but I also don't want to have to stress about using t-bolt clamps on my TB going forward.

I guess I could just try it and if it causes problems deal with them then. I've read here that you want the two port-matched. Can any machine shop add material and then port match? MAP?

Never mind.

 

anyone? bueller?

 

I can't see where you will have a problem. The stock IM flange is 60mm. Right after that it opens up. Your set up will just eliminate the 11mm step that the stocker has.

The only concern I'd have is if the TB surface is flat. When you weld a flange on the IM it needs to be milled due to the high heat of welding.

Here is a pic of my FB on a stock IM. You can see the step. I'd consider this a problem. FB does too, that's why they include a stepper that goes between their TB to a stock size IM.

Also including a pic of the IM step that opens up.

 

"unfortunately, due to the timeframe of the purchase they are not willing to do anything to help out on that" - Vender's response when I asked them to coax Full Blown to do the right thing.

I don't think the timeframe of the purchase is in anyway relevant except as an excuse to not back up this obviously defective part. NO ONE else's throttle bodies get crushed by t-bolt clamps. These units are trash.

Full Blown Motorsports is not an ethical and forthright manufacturer and has lost my business, permanently, I don't care if they come up with the second coming of the turbo charger, I'll never purchase anything from them ever again.

 

Yesterday I decided to try to help other people from suffering the same fate as me and I put up reviews ...

At Full Blown Motorsports (not yet published):
http://fullblownmotorsports.com/full...-throttle-body

MAPerformance (published):
http://www.maperformance.com/mitsubi...0mmtb-evo.html

LancerShop (not yet published):
http://www.lancershop.com/customer/p...productid=5955

Amazon (published):

Today I realized that most of the rest of you have not done so (you can't have, since I was the first or second person reviewing it in all 4 places.)

So why don't you guys go and add your own reviews so that maybe the next poor dumb sap won't get screwed the way we were?

I updated or added all the reviews with this:

 

I dont understand why FB would cover it if the customer used the wrong size Tbolt clamp

 

I dont understand why your out to try and ruin the reputation of FB? I did a simple google search for the throttle body and there are multiple posts on not to overtighten the tbolt clamp or you could crack it. Why would FB cover there TB if its something the OP did? Its like running STMs Alum intercooler and overtightning the tclamps and crushing the pipe which is easy to do and then blame STM for making to thin of a intercooler pipe.

I have always used a sticky/tacky compound (even utra hold hairspray) and sprayed it around my pipes so I wouldnt have to tighten the tbolts nearly as much as I would without it and I hold 40psi without issues.

Im not taking sides, Im just looking from a vendor prospective on why they would cover a cracked lip on a TB when the OP overtighted it or used the wrong size tbolt.

There are plenty of people running the TB without issues

 

Are anyone else's throttle bodies cracking like this? Answer the question... yes or no?

 

You know that for a fact, do you?

If you know that, perhaps you can tell us whether Full Blown Motorsports are even slightly interested in finding out what size clamp anyone used? Because if they are, that's the first I've heard of it.

[EDIT] That's a very good point and I did indeed use the wrong size clamp (3", 79mm/87mm)

 

Just to clarify, the OP didn't overtighten the TB as he sold me his BNIB.

I posted on post 177 that I cracked it. I reread what I posted and it reads like I tightened it snug then did 2 to 3 more full revolutions of tightening it down. That's not what I did. I may have tightened it 3/4 of a turn in 1/4 turn increments after I snugged it down.

It cracked right at the casting mark. I showed it to FB and they offered me a discounted BNIB, but weren't interested in an exchange. Fair enough. I decided that I will weld on a 3" ID aluminum tube with a thicker wall with a lip.

I agree on TB and all IC piping is to use hairspray on the pipe to coupler contact like you recommend.

I've tightened my stock TB much tighter than I did this TB, but I learned a lesson. As detroit pistins pointed out it may have been too small a T-Bolt. IDK as I've never had this problem before with any T-Bolt.

 

My FB TB cracked. Back running ported stock. Idle is better too.

 

Nice!!! Is that with your FP Black?

I'm on the ported stock TB and IM kick. We're selling the MIL.SPEC 65mm TB because of this. I would have sold aftermarket TB, but at this point I think the ported stock is the way to go for most applications.

For big time HP, I think you may have to sacrifice a little and go with big IM and TB.

 

go put up a review.