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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blknblubkrdude
Anyone run the FB 70MM with ETS short route UICP/IC?

I was using the stock route ETS UICP with the OEM TB no problem.

I now am installing the short route to the 70mm TB and it's not fitting so well. I'm wondering if the extra length on the TB is screwing with me.....
It's not reaching or is the coupler not big enough to go around the 70mm TB? You have to get a transition coupler, I think it's 2.5" to 3".
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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I actually managed to stretch the ETS coupler over the 70MM TB. I just trimed the edge off with a razor knife and forced it on.

Heres the issue:



The pipes hit eachother. If I get them to where they are not touching, there is no way I can couple them together.

If I cut the lower pipe down about 1/2-3/4" I can make it work. Problem is that I will have to find someone to crimp the flare back into the pipe.

Thanks!
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Not sure I have the correct orientation from that photo, but if its similar to my situation I undid the bracket bolt on the lower pipe off of the out side of the IC. That bracket attachment raised up my nesei pipe and egress issues with the hard cluth line.

What I don't get or see is how the TB made this difference? I can also note that all the same parts came off and back on my car (motor pulled) and nothing went back exactly with the same fitment as before. It fit great, but just slightly different.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Yeah that is a bad cell phone picture. It is from underneath.
What you see at the top of the photo is the clutch slave cylinder.

The 70MM TB has shifted the UICP over to the right so much that the stock route ETS UICP would not fit with the OEM battery.
I decided to go speed density so I now went with a ETS short route. I suspect the new TB is screwing the angles up...?
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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I just went from the stock to 70mm TB and didn't notice that much of a different. I don't know your lower pipe though. Mine was difficult until I removed the stock bracket point. Its just held in place by mounting to the IC and the Upper Pipe. This allowed just enough adjustment to fit past everything.

I always thought of my setup as the short route, because the battery needs to be a mini, but I still have the uturn pipe as a lower. Not sure that is how yours is. The only thing I can think of based on what I am understanding is to lower the lower pipe. It only needs a hair twist at the IC, and that will magnify into 1/2 inch at the coupling. But, you need to make sure the bracket is not in use, or at least lose. Sorry if what I am saying doesn't make any sense based on your lower pipe.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RJones
Has anyone had issues with a high idle w/ this tb? I've got the set screw loosened all the way, and the idle is still around 1300-1500.
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I'm definitely planning on doing a boost leak test, but on second thought I think it's TPS related. I datalogged and at idle it's at like 19% instead of the usual 13.3%
Originally Posted by blknblubkrdude
My tps at idle from the factory was around 16%. If your TPS reads 100% @ WOT, and not a millimeter sooner, I would not suspect the TPS to be the culprit. Stranger things have happened, though.
I'm having the issue with mine as well, I can't get it tuned with it reading as it is.

My throttle wide open reads 95.6%...
now i know for fact slanting the TPS left to right changes the percentage reading,

For example: Slanting it all the way LEFT (with the throttle physically all the way open) it read 100%

Slanting it more to where it LOOKS like how it should bolt up, then it reads 93.XX%-95.XX%.

My question is this, should i just slant it all the way to the LEFT then adjust the Idle Screw to where it should be?

My Setup:

JMF "Drag" Intake Manifold
Full Blown 70mm Throttle Body
....Ets UICP (typically used on the Magnus V5 for lower set intake manifolds fitment)

Originally Posted by RJones
Hmm mine has been at 13.33% every time I've ever logged my car, so seeing it at 19-20% throws a red flag for me. I'll try to log for wot too and see where it lands. One guy in another thread said that the tb flange on his rev3 manifold was warped so badly that you could see daylight. So I'll have to check that too.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 06:27 AM
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I know I am late to the tps party, but the range of the full blown tb only allows around a 17-18% closed tps reading to achieve the 100% wot reading needed.

I have learned to live with it, although this could be something that could easily be revised by full blown as its probably the only complaint I have about the tb altogether.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 06:50 AM
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What if you adjust the base idle screw back a little?
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 10isace
That's good to know. I just saw your set-up on another thread I'm thinking this may be the best route, S2 IM & TB.

Just saw this on S2 website. Sorry it's

http://youtu.be/9cjiz1TZKI0
Too bad you have to port the hell out of that mani to make it work, price is good but I rather buy tried and tested. Video ain't worth anything about the power it makes, it lacks before and after dynosheets.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wizzo 8
What if you adjust the base idle screw back a little?
Then I have a hard time getting it to idle. Evo 8 on s3's
When I mentioned above revising the tb. What I was referring to is moving the mounting bosses a slight amount, because if everyone is having to turn the idle screw in a certain amount then no one will be able to acheive the 13% tps reading.. Make sense? I know I'm rambling on
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Tonight I'm going to try backing down the idle screw and crank up the iscv steps. That would get rid of the tps issue assuming I can get it to idle
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted91t
Tonight I'm going to try backing down the idle screw and crank up the iscv steps. That would get rid of the tps issue assuming I can get it to idle
Make sure to disconnect your battery after cranking up iscv. At least with my car it seems to have no effect until I disconnect the battery.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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I got one of these t/b also. Im not installing it until the end of the month though
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Well I got mine all installed and am fighting the idle. My tps is reading 20 at idle and 100 at full throttle. Maybe the 20% is messing my idle up. My idle steps is at 33 which I thought should be 20-25. If I activate the base idle through evoscan the car will die. So to fix this normally I would just open up the base screw and lower steps to get to my desired idle. I do this and the steps stay at 33 and the idle is at 1300. So to get my car to idle below 1200 I have to back the base screw off. It has to be that 20% at idle but not sure. Any opinions or ideas?
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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So this might be too obvious, but did you do a boost leak test to confirm you are not sucking in air under vacuum. The TPS reading 20 could just be off, because anything over will read 100. So its likely really operating and 20 and 108, for example, and just needs adjusting. I wasted a lot of time on all kinds of stuff until I finally did a proper boost leak and the TB was leaking.
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