View Poll Results: -
-



0
0%
-



0
0%
Voters: 0. You may not vote on this poll
Just got, buying, reviewing, thinking about a new Evo [Ultra Hyper Mega MERGE]
After flying combat missions for a year in an Apache Longbow helicopter, I finally want to be comfortable.
Buddy, you DESERVE an EVO..
Actually, you should buy whatever the hell you want when you get back home..
And by the way..
THANK YOU!!!!

rcharris -
The paint is terrible. the worst paint I've ever had. I had a 7 year old Saturn ($12000 new) that had better looking paint at 7 years than my EVO does at 9 months. And I never waxed the Saturn! I hate looking at it because of all the paint swirls and marks. If you do get the EVO, don't get black or red...stick with silver or white.
On top of that, my rotors are already warped (at least that's what the dealer said). I've never autocrossed or tracked my car and the rotors are already warped!?! I thought that these brakes were high performance....overkill for everyday driving. And wouldn't you know it...they aren't covered under the warrenty. I've owned a Prelude, Chevy Z71, Saturn, and BMW 325 and none of them ever had warped rotors. But somehow I managed to do it in 12,000 miles...I don't know what's next but I'll tell you this is my first and last Mitsubishi.
I originally hoped that because this car is built in Japan that it wasn't the same corner cutting Mitsubishi...but it looks like it is.
Don't get me wrong. This car is the best driving car I've ever driven. But for $30k I expect a decent paint job and brakes that don't warp. It's because of my experience I can't recommend this car to anyone.
The paint is terrible. the worst paint I've ever had. I had a 7 year old Saturn ($12000 new) that had better looking paint at 7 years than my EVO does at 9 months. And I never waxed the Saturn! I hate looking at it because of all the paint swirls and marks. If you do get the EVO, don't get black or red...stick with silver or white.
On top of that, my rotors are already warped (at least that's what the dealer said). I've never autocrossed or tracked my car and the rotors are already warped!?! I thought that these brakes were high performance....overkill for everyday driving. And wouldn't you know it...they aren't covered under the warrenty. I've owned a Prelude, Chevy Z71, Saturn, and BMW 325 and none of them ever had warped rotors. But somehow I managed to do it in 12,000 miles...I don't know what's next but I'll tell you this is my first and last Mitsubishi.
I originally hoped that because this car is built in Japan that it wasn't the same corner cutting Mitsubishi...but it looks like it is.
Don't get me wrong. This car is the best driving car I've ever driven. But for $30k I expect a decent paint job and brakes that don't warp. It's because of my experience I can't recommend this car to anyone.
It comes down to performance, comfortability, and overall, rotary or cylinder motor. IMO i say go with the EVO, rotary engines are good, but a ***** to maintain. But the do get HP gains from mods and especially turbo upgrades.
The RX8 looks sweet, but thats it, it really is not a performer...i mean rsx type s' take them all day long, get the evo and youll never look back.
Last edited by DOOMID@TeamD; Jan 21, 2004 at 02:38 PM.
i drove a rx8 a few days ago and i must say it is not all it's cracked up to be. i was less than impressed. It did not feel fast AT ALL!!! It looks hot, and you could buy a turbo for it and make it fast, but mod for mod it will never keep up with the evo!!!!!!
Buy the RX-8. It isn't half the car the Evo is, but it seems to me that you're not looking for anything as hardcore as the Evo. The only problem I have with the RX-8 (driven two now) is that they're REALLY underpowered. Didn't even make close to its original figure of 250 hp, and is still about 15-20 hp short of the new 238 hp rating.
Also, 99% of the mag reviews you read about the RX-8 are bull****. They were all driving pre-production cars that made closer to the advertised hp then than the real car. If you want to spend a little bit more, the G35 coupe is only 32k. Brembos, 280 hp. Not as much space in the back though.
Also, 99% of the mag reviews you read about the RX-8 are bull****. They were all driving pre-production cars that made closer to the advertised hp then than the real car. If you want to spend a little bit more, the G35 coupe is only 32k. Brembos, 280 hp. Not as much space in the back though.
Last edited by rebelzx; Jan 21, 2004 at 02:30 PM.
I spent two years and was bitterly dissappointed with the car. I've had nearly 900 posts on the rx8forum and have test-driven the car, so I know what it offers. Frankly, the car is way overpriced for the performance it delivers. I posted a thread about my test-drive last summer in the Other Cars section if you'd like to know my impressions in more detail.
Thanks for all the feedback. Think I'm going with the RX8. I may regret it in the short run. But I think down the road the RX8 will prove to be the better buy. Long after mod fever has subsided and the paint chips clear I think many EVO owners will have second thoughts. I don't want to be one of them. Thanks again and the final decision will not be made until May. So any input you have from now until then will be highly appreciated. VIPERS.
Considering the RX8 doesn't put down what Mazda claims, same as with the Spec-V, I wouldn't get a Mazda. The EVO is proven... with 14 or so years of the 4G63, why would you want anything else?
RX-8 vs Evo
I came this close (hold fingers two millimeters apart) to buying an RX-8 before changing my mind and getting an Evo three weeks ago. I'm a big guy, too (6'3", 200 LBS), so comfort was an issue for me as well. Here are my observations about the two cars:
1. The RX-8 seats are very comfortable.
2. The rear seats in the RX-8 are shockingly roomy. I can sit back there with the front seat adjusted for my normal driving position.
3. The RX-8 has "love 'em or hate 'em" looks. I think the car is handsome, if a bit bulbous in side profile. The Evo is much more agressive-looking, if a bit juvenile. That carbon fiber wing says a lot about the car, and it attracts the attention of MPs, police, rice-boys, and thieves -- none of which is desired.
4. The RX-8 sunroof steals a bit of head room, so I was barely brushing the top of the car with my head at all times, which I found annoying. You can get the RX-8 without the sunroof, but you have to settle for a lesser sound system (not that the Bose system in the Grand Touring package is anything to write home about) and cloth seats. Around here, finding an RX-8 with just the Sport Package was hard. Dealers typically order them all loaded up.
5. The A-pillar in the RX-8 intrudes into the driver's vision field, being just a few inches from my face. You're slung low in the seat and have a longish hood to look over. I find the Evo's driving position and view to be much more commanding and much less claustrophobic. The RX-8 makes me feel like I'm driving in a bathtub. The Evo's short dimensions and sight line to the road immediately in front of the car make the car feel like it's going fast, even when it isn't.
6. The Evo's back seat is much larger than the RX-8's and access is a lot easier. With a family of four, this weighed heavily in my decision. Even though the RX-8's back seat is amazing, you still have to contend with those suicide doors, which require the driver or passenger to open their door to let the rear seat occupants out. But for all the wonder of the RX-8's back seat, the Evo is even bigger. The headroom, the space, the access, and the comfort are just plainly better. It doesn't have that big tunnel separating the rear seat passengers like the RX-8 does. I've had three big teenagers in the back seat and they didn't throw up fits of complaint like they usually do, other than to demand that I turn up the Limp Bizkit CD that they wanted me to play.
7. People make a big deal about how cheap the Evo's interior is, but it really isn't so bad. The mouse fur on the doors and the thin carpet are definitely low budget, but otherwise the interior looks clean and purposeful. It won't impress others like the RX-8's interior, but it isn't an embarrassment, either. The Evo's gauges are not the best in world, but you get used to them. The RX-8 has a big digital speedometer, with no traditional gauge.
8. Torque is seriously lacking in the RX-8. Tooling around town, the car feels like a Corolla. You're got to really spin that rotary engine to get it to sing. The Evo's explosion of power above 3500 RPM is so much more involving and leads, in my opinion, to a more pleasureable driving experience.
9. The RX-8 turns heads. So does the Evo, but the RX-8 is much more common, so after a few years, no one is going to think anything about it, kind of like how people don't fawn over New Beetles or Audi TTs anymore.
10. Reliability for the RX-8 is unknown. Evo reliablity is fairly well known outside this country. It's not great, but it's not awful, either. Other than the clutch and complaints about chipping paint, the Evo seems to be holding up okay. The RX-8 appears to be getting poor fuel economy. It burns oil. The Evo's fuel economy is a bit better, with 20 MPG easily possible. The best the RX-8 seems to be able to do is 18, and some report 13.
11. The Evo has a stiff, busy ride. Some say "bone-jarring", but I haven't found it to be that bad. The RX-8 is a bit more softly sprung, but it still has a farily firm ride as well. Neither will offer a ride like a Buick.
12. The Evo is cheaper, but it depreciates like a rock (39% residual after 36 months versus the 58% I was quoted on the RX-8). If you will own the car only a few years, you'll definitely lose more money with the Mitsubishi.
13. Mazda dealers versus Mitsubishi dealers. Neither has a great reputation in this arena, so you'll have to investigate your local dealer and see if they deviate from the norm.
When you get back to the USA, spend some quality time just sitting in both cars. You can get a feel for how the car conforms to your body. Driving them is a different matter. The Evo outperforms the RX-8 is every category, but that may or may not be as important to you as the interior or the looks. The decision is yours.
Lee K
1. The RX-8 seats are very comfortable.
2. The rear seats in the RX-8 are shockingly roomy. I can sit back there with the front seat adjusted for my normal driving position.
3. The RX-8 has "love 'em or hate 'em" looks. I think the car is handsome, if a bit bulbous in side profile. The Evo is much more agressive-looking, if a bit juvenile. That carbon fiber wing says a lot about the car, and it attracts the attention of MPs, police, rice-boys, and thieves -- none of which is desired.
4. The RX-8 sunroof steals a bit of head room, so I was barely brushing the top of the car with my head at all times, which I found annoying. You can get the RX-8 without the sunroof, but you have to settle for a lesser sound system (not that the Bose system in the Grand Touring package is anything to write home about) and cloth seats. Around here, finding an RX-8 with just the Sport Package was hard. Dealers typically order them all loaded up.
5. The A-pillar in the RX-8 intrudes into the driver's vision field, being just a few inches from my face. You're slung low in the seat and have a longish hood to look over. I find the Evo's driving position and view to be much more commanding and much less claustrophobic. The RX-8 makes me feel like I'm driving in a bathtub. The Evo's short dimensions and sight line to the road immediately in front of the car make the car feel like it's going fast, even when it isn't.
6. The Evo's back seat is much larger than the RX-8's and access is a lot easier. With a family of four, this weighed heavily in my decision. Even though the RX-8's back seat is amazing, you still have to contend with those suicide doors, which require the driver or passenger to open their door to let the rear seat occupants out. But for all the wonder of the RX-8's back seat, the Evo is even bigger. The headroom, the space, the access, and the comfort are just plainly better. It doesn't have that big tunnel separating the rear seat passengers like the RX-8 does. I've had three big teenagers in the back seat and they didn't throw up fits of complaint like they usually do, other than to demand that I turn up the Limp Bizkit CD that they wanted me to play.
7. People make a big deal about how cheap the Evo's interior is, but it really isn't so bad. The mouse fur on the doors and the thin carpet are definitely low budget, but otherwise the interior looks clean and purposeful. It won't impress others like the RX-8's interior, but it isn't an embarrassment, either. The Evo's gauges are not the best in world, but you get used to them. The RX-8 has a big digital speedometer, with no traditional gauge.
8. Torque is seriously lacking in the RX-8. Tooling around town, the car feels like a Corolla. You're got to really spin that rotary engine to get it to sing. The Evo's explosion of power above 3500 RPM is so much more involving and leads, in my opinion, to a more pleasureable driving experience.
9. The RX-8 turns heads. So does the Evo, but the RX-8 is much more common, so after a few years, no one is going to think anything about it, kind of like how people don't fawn over New Beetles or Audi TTs anymore.
10. Reliability for the RX-8 is unknown. Evo reliablity is fairly well known outside this country. It's not great, but it's not awful, either. Other than the clutch and complaints about chipping paint, the Evo seems to be holding up okay. The RX-8 appears to be getting poor fuel economy. It burns oil. The Evo's fuel economy is a bit better, with 20 MPG easily possible. The best the RX-8 seems to be able to do is 18, and some report 13.
11. The Evo has a stiff, busy ride. Some say "bone-jarring", but I haven't found it to be that bad. The RX-8 is a bit more softly sprung, but it still has a farily firm ride as well. Neither will offer a ride like a Buick.
12. The Evo is cheaper, but it depreciates like a rock (39% residual after 36 months versus the 58% I was quoted on the RX-8). If you will own the car only a few years, you'll definitely lose more money with the Mitsubishi.
13. Mazda dealers versus Mitsubishi dealers. Neither has a great reputation in this arena, so you'll have to investigate your local dealer and see if they deviate from the norm.
When you get back to the USA, spend some quality time just sitting in both cars. You can get a feel for how the car conforms to your body. Driving them is a different matter. The Evo outperforms the RX-8 is every category, but that may or may not be as important to you as the interior or the looks. The decision is yours.
Lee K
Honest opinion...
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to this forum... What I came here to ask is your honest opinion about which car I should get. The choices are between the 350z and the evo. What I am gonna do is get a lease (which I looked through a lot of the buying/ monthly payments topic and didnt see one lease) probably for 3 years with 15k a year. The thing is I love modifying cars but when it comes down to it I would only do minor things (intake, exhaust, maybe comp chip) , and I also get bored with cars very easily, so the lease works out well. So I know that you guys are obviously biased but are also rational people, so tell me what you think about each car (if you know about the Z), and why you maybe chose the evo over another car. Also could you maybe let me know about insurance prices, if anyone is experienced with that which one do you think would be higher for an 18 year old male. Sorry if I sounded like a dumbass during this, but its a big thing to me, and I thought I wanted the Z but the Evo is growing on me. I'm not really a big import fan, so I didnt really like the Evo at first, but its looking better and better everyday. Thanks for reading my post, I hope you guys through some info and opinions at me that will help. Thanks a lot.

