Intermittent Starting Problems - Mysterious Cause Identified and Fixed
Sep 15, 2016, 11:28 PM
#226
Thank you!Now i just have to get a screwdriver who will fit in, cause the dash is in the way, so another trip to home depot for a screwdriver who bends
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Sascha (Sep 22, 2016)
Sep 17, 2016, 05:42 AM
#229
So to splice in the new HD relay, I'd cut both wires and solder both wires to their respective ends on the new relay?
So both wires on the pin #5 side (to the left in my pic) to wire 85 on the new relay? And both wires on the other side (to the right in my pic) to wire 87 on the new relay?
So both wires on the pin #5 side (to the left in my pic) to wire 85 on the new relay? And both wires on the other side (to the right in my pic) to wire 87 on the new relay?
Had this same dilemma with the two wires. I actually tied the wires wrong so i had to re do everything again because the car would not start. So after looking at what was posted above i then did the same. But when i did that i crossed the wires so when i started the car i heard a noise coming from the starter lower area so I quickly took the terminals off the battery. So i then changed the wires around and the car started up on the dime. I have to go back to the garage to finish up the job. Will keep everyone posted.
Sep 17, 2016, 07:06 AM
#230
So i went back to the car to try and figure this out but im having a lil issue
Car turns on fine with relay on right but im getting this noise.
So i took the connections from the relay off and started the car without it and i get no noise no nothing.
It's Like once i shut the car off the battery is still giving the starter power.
Relay i bought
Car turns on fine with relay on right but im getting this noise.
So i took the connections from the relay off and started the car without it and i get no noise no nothing.
It's Like once i shut the car off the battery is still giving the starter power.
Relay i bought
Last edited by rhd-jon; Sep 17, 2016 at 07:14 AM.
Sep 18, 2016, 01:42 PM
#235
That cannot happen unless something elsewhere is screwed up such that pin 85 has power full time (should have power only when starting), or the relay is wired incorrectly. So long as the starter circuit functions and the relay is wired correctly, what you describe cannot happen.
What I suggest you do is disconnect pins 85 and 86. Keep 87 wired to the starter, and then connect 30 to the BAT +. You should not hear the starter engage. If you do, either you (a) have a bad relay, or (b) are confusing pin 87a with 87. There are only finite possibilities.
If you do this and the starter does not engage as expected, then you check what you wired to 85. That should only be energized when the starter is engaged by turning the key with clutch depressed, and should not get power at any other time.
What I suggest you do is disconnect pins 85 and 86. Keep 87 wired to the starter, and then connect 30 to the BAT +. You should not hear the starter engage. If you do, either you (a) have a bad relay, or (b) are confusing pin 87a with 87. There are only finite possibilities.
If you do this and the starter does not engage as expected, then you check what you wired to 85. That should only be energized when the starter is engaged by turning the key with clutch depressed, and should not get power at any other time.
Last edited by Ted B; Sep 18, 2016 at 01:49 PM.
Oct 4, 2016, 12:56 PM
#237
Update on my fix - It's been a month now since I replaced the Key switch and starter relay:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11660407
My car has started reliably ever since - WELL Worth the $50 Amazon purchases.
John-
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11660407
My car has started reliably ever since - WELL Worth the $50 Amazon purchases.
John-
Oct 18, 2016, 11:01 AM
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So I posted this thread yesterday: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...errerid=222804
but after doing a search, I may be having the same problem, I wouldn't classify it as intermittent since we have never been able to get it to start..but haven't tried 30 times in a row to start it. I can't get it to turn over by putting the ignition switch in my hand though.
but after doing a search, I may be having the same problem, I wouldn't classify it as intermittent since we have never been able to get it to start..but haven't tried 30 times in a row to start it. I can't get it to turn over by putting the ignition switch in my hand though.
