Reflash #2 Out!! Just went to the dealer
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lol, not likely.
ECU flashes are more likely to help your car in the long run, even with tuning. The computer system on this car is really quite good and it's surprising tuners left right and center with how adaptable it is. It's not going to change the AFR's so badly that adding a mod will make it too lean as the ecu can most likely adjust the flow of fuel automatically for the situation needed. The problem we're having now is that it is set up to add too much fuel in the first place. Fixing that will be very beneficial to all.
As for a cone filter voiding your warranty I think that would be very very silly for anyone to do as long as you have some sort of filter on there in the first place man. Besides you're taking it in for an update that has nothing to do with a warranty claim due to let's say a turbo problem caused by sand in the compressor. You know what I mean? It's a mitsubishi problem they're fixing so don't let them make you feel bad about it.
ECU flashes are more likely to help your car in the long run, even with tuning. The computer system on this car is really quite good and it's surprising tuners left right and center with how adaptable it is. It's not going to change the AFR's so badly that adding a mod will make it too lean as the ecu can most likely adjust the flow of fuel automatically for the situation needed. The problem we're having now is that it is set up to add too much fuel in the first place. Fixing that will be very beneficial to all.
As for a cone filter voiding your warranty I think that would be very very silly for anyone to do as long as you have some sort of filter on there in the first place man. Besides you're taking it in for an update that has nothing to do with a warranty claim due to let's say a turbo problem caused by sand in the compressor. You know what I mean? It's a mitsubishi problem they're fixing so don't let them make you feel bad about it.
As rich as the engine runs and as easy as it seems to be to tune a bunch of power into it by leaning it out, do you think that Mitsubishi has a reason for underpowering the X?
Afraid of too many warrenty claims on the power train? easy to upgrade power in the next model year?
Afraid of too many warrenty claims on the power train? easy to upgrade power in the next model year?
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All current TSB's as of 6AM today
This is straight from Mits dealerlink
2008 Technical Service Bulletins
(Lancer Evolution)
00 - GENERAL
Estimated Load Time
TSB-08-00-002 2008 LANCER EVOLUTION NEW MODEL SERVICE INFORMATION 30
TSB-08-00-006 GENERAL PDI PROCEDURES FOR 2009 MODELS 30
11 - ENGINE
12 - LUBRICATION
13 - FUEL
TSB-08-13-006 ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-006REV ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-006REVII ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-011 ECM REPROGRAMMING SLIGHT HESITATION ABOVE 5000 RPM 30
21 - CLUTCH
TSB-08-21-001 CAUTIONARY INSTRUCTION FOR HANDLING CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCHES - SMR 30
22 - MANUAL TRANSAXLE
31 - WHEEL & TIRE
TSB-08-31-001 TPMS SENSOR SERVICE 30
35 - SERVICE BRAKES
TSB-08-35-001 CAUTIONARY INSTRUCTION FOR HANDLING STOP LIGHT SWITCHES - SMR 30
37 - STEERING
TSB-08-37-001 SPECIAL TOOL FOR STEERING GEAR AND LINKAGE DISASSEMBLY/ASSEMBLY - SMR 30
42A - BODY
TSB-08-42A-008 CORRECTED PROCEDURES FOR DTCS B240a & B240B - SMR 30
42B - BODY REPAIR TSB-08-42B-003 REVISED WELDING POINTS FOR THE FENDER SHIELD - SMR 30
51 - EXTERIOR
52A - INTERIOR
52B - SUPPLEMENTAL RESTRAINT SYSTEM
TSB-08-52B-002 ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE FOR CLOCK SPRING NEUTRL POINT-SMR 30
54 - CHASSIS ELECTRICAL
55 - HEATER, A/C, VENT
2008 Technical Service Bulletins
(Lancer Evolution)
00 - GENERAL
Estimated Load Time
TSB-08-00-002 2008 LANCER EVOLUTION NEW MODEL SERVICE INFORMATION 30
TSB-08-00-006 GENERAL PDI PROCEDURES FOR 2009 MODELS 30
11 - ENGINE
12 - LUBRICATION
13 - FUEL
TSB-08-13-006 ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-006REV ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-006REVII ECM REPROGRAMMING FOR DTC P1320 30
TSB-08-13-011 ECM REPROGRAMMING SLIGHT HESITATION ABOVE 5000 RPM 30
21 - CLUTCH
TSB-08-21-001 CAUTIONARY INSTRUCTION FOR HANDLING CLUTCH INTERLOCK SWITCHES - SMR 30
22 - MANUAL TRANSAXLE
31 - WHEEL & TIRE
TSB-08-31-001 TPMS SENSOR SERVICE 30
35 - SERVICE BRAKES
TSB-08-35-001 CAUTIONARY INSTRUCTION FOR HANDLING STOP LIGHT SWITCHES - SMR 30
37 - STEERING
TSB-08-37-001 SPECIAL TOOL FOR STEERING GEAR AND LINKAGE DISASSEMBLY/ASSEMBLY - SMR 30
42A - BODY
TSB-08-42A-008 CORRECTED PROCEDURES FOR DTCS B240a & B240B - SMR 30
42B - BODY REPAIR TSB-08-42B-003 REVISED WELDING POINTS FOR THE FENDER SHIELD - SMR 30
51 - EXTERIOR
52A - INTERIOR
52B - SUPPLEMENTAL RESTRAINT SYSTEM
TSB-08-52B-002 ALIGNMENT PROCEDURE FOR CLOCK SPRING NEUTRL POINT-SMR 30
54 - CHASSIS ELECTRICAL
55 - HEATER, A/C, VENT
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Warranty...
Good point....I was thinking along the same lines. 
Novel thought, I agree!
IMO it would be stupid, very stupid, if they do, just depends on how your dealership feels toward aftermarket parts and if they honor it or void your warranty just thinking of aftermarket parts. But I don't trust the dealership's around here like that so I wouldn't chance it......but that's just me.
Novel thought, I agree!
IMO it would be stupid, very stupid, if they do, just depends on how your dealership feels toward aftermarket parts and if they honor it or void your warranty just thinking of aftermarket parts. But I don't trust the dealership's around here like that so I wouldn't chance it......but that's just me.
The dealership really hasn't too much to say most items about the warranty, Mitsubishi does, obviously they know certain things are not big deal, but depending on what the claim is, the field service reps know and will ask how a problem may have happened. No dealer with a brain is going to risk their franchise agreement for a claim that is not completely legit. Especially on a new model like the X, they will most likely ask for pictures and parts before authorizing the work. I can tell you that they monitor expensive claims very closely, so most times it out of the dealers hands, but they take the heat from the customer.
The dealership really hasn't too much to say most items about the warranty, Mitsubishi does, obviously they know certain things are not big deal, but depending on what the claim is, the field service reps know and will ask how a problem may have happened. No dealer with a brain is going to risk their franchise agreement for a claim that is not completely legit. Especially on a new model like the X, they will most likely ask for pictures and parts before authorizing the work. I can tell you that they monitor expensive claims very closely, so most times it out of the dealers hands, but they take the heat from the customer.
Affirmative. One of the members of EvoXForums posted it up:
The correct TSB is TSB 08-13-011
Technical Service Bulletin
SUBJECT:
ENGINE CONTROL MODULE REPROGRAMMING
FOR SLIGHT HESITATION ABOVE 5,000 RPM
No: TSB 08-13-011
DATE: May, 2008
MODEL: 2008 Lancer Evolution
CIRCULATE TO: [ ] GENERAL MANAGER [X] PARTS MANAGER [X] TECHNICIAN
[X] SERVICE ADVISOR [X] SERVICE MANAGER [X] WARRANTY PROCESSOR [ ] SALES MANAGER
PURPOSE
Customers of some affected vehicles may experience a slight hesitation when accelerating at engine
speeds above 5,000 RPM. The condition is due to the air fuel mixture becoming too rich during higher
engine speed.
This Technical Service Bulletin advises the steps to reprogram the ECM with new software which will cor‐
rect the air/fuel ratio during certain operating parameters.
AFFECTED VEHICLES
2008 Lancer Evolution equipped with 5 speed manual transmission only built prior to April 10, 2008.
The correct TSB is TSB 08-13-011
Technical Service Bulletin
SUBJECT:
ENGINE CONTROL MODULE REPROGRAMMING
FOR SLIGHT HESITATION ABOVE 5,000 RPM
No: TSB 08-13-011
DATE: May, 2008
MODEL: 2008 Lancer Evolution
CIRCULATE TO: [ ] GENERAL MANAGER [X] PARTS MANAGER [X] TECHNICIAN
[X] SERVICE ADVISOR [X] SERVICE MANAGER [X] WARRANTY PROCESSOR [ ] SALES MANAGER
PURPOSE
Customers of some affected vehicles may experience a slight hesitation when accelerating at engine
speeds above 5,000 RPM. The condition is due to the air fuel mixture becoming too rich during higher
engine speed.
This Technical Service Bulletin advises the steps to reprogram the ECM with new software which will cor‐
rect the air/fuel ratio during certain operating parameters.
AFFECTED VEHICLES
2008 Lancer Evolution equipped with 5 speed manual transmission only built prior to April 10, 2008.
Cool. This is exactly what my dealer told me months ago, and they have been right on schedule with both flashes. Making my appointment tomorrow and hopefully it picks up a little power from the flash. If it does I think 12.9s will be possible completely stock.
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What can i say?
And that's fine I still have no trust or taking any chances, regardless! Best believe whenever I take my car in for warranty work, it will be stock so Mitsu can feel free to monitor my claims. I just got back from taking it in and that service rep did a 12 min inspection, before they took it into the garage, on my car for Any Mods. I was telling him how I accidently switched the awc lever on the steering column and he nearly flipped and said "what, what........you got in a accident!". I'm like WTF!!!!
The guy sounds like a boner, and then they wonder why less than 40% of customers that buy cars come to the dealer for service after the sale. The only thing they can count on is warranty work. Apparently the service writer is looking for reasons not to help, most people that do that job I know want to fix everything they can find and help out. They usually get paid for each thing they can get you to fix or the factory to warranty. Doesn't make much sense.
The guy sounds like a boner, and then they wonder why less than 40% of customers that buy cars come to the dealer for service after the sale. The only thing they can count on is warranty work. Apparently the service writer is looking for reasons not to help, most people that do that job I know want to fix everything they can find and help out. They usually get paid for each thing they can get you to fix or the factory to warranty. Doesn't make much sense.
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car still runs rich after update, but doesn't seem quite as bad, before I could see all the extra fuel, it looked black..now is more silver gray. Still very rich running, not a noticable difference in fuel economy or not enough of a difference to save much if any fuel.
The guy sounds like a boner, and then they wonder why less than 40% of customers that buy cars come to the dealer for service after the sale. The only thing they can count on is warranty work. Apparently the service writer is looking for reasons not to help, most people that do that job I know want to fix everything they can find and help out. They usually get paid for each thing they can get you to fix or the factory to warranty. Doesn't make much sense.
Good to know! Thx 4 the update.