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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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The 370 looks like a nice upgrade from the 350. One thing that stands out for me is that unlike most new models cars, the 370 got smaller and lighter. Nice trend.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Well, if you get sport package (which is a must), then the 370 actually ends up being about 75 lbs heavier than a base 350 did, so even though they shaved weight from the chassis, after safety features (much like what happened to the X), it ended up actually gaining weight. Look it up. Almost every magazine comments on this. It looks like a great car, but the hype was a little more than what the car delivers. Still, a definite improvement over the 350.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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don't know if this was a re-post didn't wana go through 19 pages of ppl arguing but here's a link to a test of the 370Z http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvtYllqykg
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Al's SS
don't know if this was a re-post didn't wana go through 19 pages of ppl arguing but here's a link to a test of the 370Z http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvtYllqykg
Looks better moving vs still pics .
Than God , a Vid of a car with out some jaska$s talking or gay music playing in the background .
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Well due to the Evo's turbo and AWD, a GSR will hit the 60 miles much faster, so the first thing you'll see 2 seconds after you hit the gas pedal is half the 370Z on your rearview mirror; so in launch the 370z will be Evo's lunch.
Really? The fastest 0-60 I've seen for a stock X is 4.9 vs. 4.7 for the Z, which would put the Z about two car lengths in front.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Really? The fastest 0-60 I've seen for a stock X is 4.9 vs. 4.7 for the Z, which would put the Z about two car lengths in front.
Actually, car and driver got as fast as a 4.6 out of a stock GSR. Either way, the Z will outperform it from a roll, which is a more accurate measure of straight line acceleration since people usually race from a roll when on the street. In any case, stock for stock, the Z will most likely beat the X on a fast road course and the X will most likely beat the Z on a tight course. Once modding begins though, the X will take the cake unless you want to spend big money to make the Z competitive.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by icrnk
The 370 looks like a nice upgrade from the 350. One thing that stands out for me is that unlike most new models cars, the 370 got smaller and lighter. Nice trend.
yes i agree with the lighter and more power part. that is a good thing to have given the trend with the vehicles now a days.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
Actually, car and driver got as fast as a 4.6 out of a stock GSR. Either way, the Z will outperform it from a roll, which is a more accurate measure of straight line acceleration since people usually race from a roll when on the street.
I believe the 4.6 was an '06 IX MR, they got 5.0 with an X GSR. And, like you mention, from a roll - forget it! That 5.0 drops to a 6.6 in a 5-60 rolling start.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jwoods986
I believe the 4.6 was an '06 IX MR, they got 5.0 with an X GSR. And, like you mention, from a roll - forget it! That 5.0 drops to a 6.6 in a 5-60 rolling start.
umm what? 0->60 is 5.0 and 5->60 is 6.6? wtf you on?
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shabarivas
umm what? 0->60 is 5.0 and 5->60 is 6.6? wtf you on?
lol give or take, that's about right.., may be on the slower end by .1 second..
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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umm what? 0->60 is 5.0 and 5->60 is 6.6? wtf you on?
Makes sense... there's no launch involved when already moving, then you have to deal with not being at boost threshold.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jwoods986
I believe the 4.6 was an '06 IX MR, they got 5.0 with an X GSR. And, like you mention, from a roll - forget it! That 5.0 drops to a 6.6 in a 5-60 rolling start.
You really are stubborn... There is a 4.6 and a 4.9 0-60 on the GSR. For the 370z on the other hand, I've only seen a 5.1 ... That's nothing a GSR wouldn't take care of now is it?

The 4.6 on a GSR link lies here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-4.html

The 4.9 seconds on a GSR is right here:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124209

And the 5.1 seconds on the Z is here:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=136547



Also, the Evo must do better than 6.6 on a street drag (usually 5-60) when a Ralliart does 6.4 from a 5-60 roll

Edit: also from 1 foot rollout, the Z comes alive and hits the 4.9 seconds... again, still Evo's territory.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jazket
You really are stubborn... There is a 4.6 and a 4.9 0-60 on the GSR. For the 370z on the other hand, I've only seen a 5.1 ... That's nothing a GSR wouldn't take care of now is it?

The 4.6 on a GSR link lies here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...st+page-4.html

The 4.9 seconds on a GSR is right here:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124209

And the 5.1 seconds on the Z is here:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=136547



Also, the Evo cannot do a 6-6 on a street drag (usually 5-60) when a Ralliart does 6.4 from a 5-60 roll
I've seen 4.7 and 4.9 for the 370. I think for Road and Track and motortrend, not sure though.

Edit: It was Car and Driver and Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...test_data.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...370z_road_test

I'm also pretty sure these articles were already mentioned earlier in the thread.

And yes, its quite possible to have a 6.6 for a 5-60 for the X. It's heavier, bigger turbo etc... -.-;;
This thread was pretty much already settled a few posts back...
Summary: stock for stock, 370z a little quicker in the straights, on par on most road courses...
Modded, X will most likely blow it away in a dollar for dollar competition

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Meevo
I've seen 4.7 and 4.9 for the 370. I think for Road and Track and motortrend, not sure though.

Edit: It was Car and Driver and Motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...test_data.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...370z_road_test

I'm also pretty sure these articles were already mentioned earlier in the thread.

And yes, its quite possible to have a 6.6 for a 5-60 for the X. It's heavier, bigger turbo etc... -.-;;
This thread was pretty much already settled a few posts back...
Summary: stock for stock, 370z a little quicker in the straights, on par on most road courses...
Modded, X will most likely blow it away in a dollar for dollar competition
yeah but notice how the version they used is not the cheapest one which in this case does not compare stock-to-stock with the GSR. They're using Touring with the MatchRev-6-gear-manual tranny whateverthe heck its called. I guess the discussion could end by saying that the base newest Z simply cannot outperform the Evo X... while the top of the line equals it performance-wise..... right? I guess huh
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jazket
yeah but notice how the version they used is not the cheapest one which in this case does not compare stock-to-stock with the GSR. They're using Touring with the MatchRev-6-gear-manual tranny whateverthe heck its called. I guess the discussion could end by saying that the base newest Z simply cannot outperform the Evo X... while the top of the line equals it performance-wise..... right? I guess huh
lol, what is your complex with the evo having to be the best bang for buck? It seems a little familiar...
Sure. base model can't compete. But that doesn't make sense for a stock vs stock argument. Stock is stock, no matter what trim. If you're talking more like dollar for dollar, what do you want us to compare it to, the X MR? lol
Otherwise, track model is one of the better sports cars out there that I can think of.
The question was independent of what trim level the Z came in. It could be the "best" 370z model. They're still asking whether that can keep with a X or not.



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