Nissan 370z vs Mitsubishi EVO X GSR/MR

 

AWD > RWD for sprinting from 0 to 60mph

 

According to the mags... isn't it: FWD Cobalt > AWD Evo X?

 

There are a crapload of factors.. awd, gear ratios, weather conditions, tarmac conditions, shift points, more torque, tires - size and treadwear, etc.

I'm willing to bet speeds 80mph+ the z has it hands down. I dunno what the drag coefficients are, but a lot of people are fooled by the Cd figures they give cars anyway. It still has to be multiplied by the front area of the car too, and the X's not the sleekest thing in the world.

 

I think 350z's follow the same path as SRT-4's do when it comes to going fast in a straight line....in my experience. EVERY track day at any track I've seen I never see either of these cars running the "AWESOME" numbers they brag about.

9.9 out of 10 SRT-4's I've seen run stock are mid 14 second cars and MAYBE low 14's. Even one with aftermarket turbos are running mid 13's and what-not. They always have excuses for that one.

Almost EVERY 350z I've seen run ran a crappy time. I've seen TT 350's run 13's and Supercharged ones run mid 13's as well. Stock ones are almost always in the 14's around here. Track can't be THAT bad considering my brother ran a 13.2 @ 105 in his bone stock IX MR with pretty much zero racing experience.

Not dissing the 370 as much as I'm just expressing that I don't think this car is going to be as fast as many will speculate.

 

I'd be willing to bet that the drag on the two cars won't be vastly different. When doing a drag breakdown on a Cessna 172SP, the two main drag factors were cooling drag and the fixed landing gear. Cooling drag is likely to be very similar on these two cars as neither has any ducting to direct flow of coolant air once it enters the front of the car. As far as protruding bits, the 370Z has a slight lead in that it is a little more compact and is more smooth. There will be some difference, but I believe the biggest difference will result from drivetrain losses due to the AWD system.

 

it will be a sad day when the new Z out performs an Evo. I've driven plenty of 350Z's, including my track car, and I just can't imagine a Z performing that good?? I guess anythings possible though

 

Why? The Z is a 2-door, 2-seater sports car. The Evo is 4-door that can seat 5. How many true sports cars do you know with 4-doors? That's right, none, because it's extra weight.

As for the drag coefficient, i think the C&D said 0.29 for the 370Z, and the old Evo was ~0.37. The new one is suppose to be a little better, but certainly not down to 0.29. I'd guess more like 0.34-0.35.

 

Drag racing is all about traction off the line. Hence, AWD cars will dominate. On street tires, an AWD should hit 1.7-1.8 60ft no problem. Typical RWD car without steamrollers for rear tires will hit ~2.0. If you have a VERY good driver, 1.8 in RWD with good tires (like a Z06 with 315 wide rears). For FWD, 2.2 is more typical.

In my FWD Nissan, I'd spin all the way thru 2nd gear. Only ran a 13.3, but trapped 110.87 An Evo should be a mid-12 with that trap speed due to having traction.

350Zs have relatively narrow rear tires, so traction off the line is an issue for them. Not to mention, their suspension geometry isn't really setup for drag. Neither are Supras. What does a 400whp Supra run? 12's. what does a 1000hp Supra run? 12's

You could stick a monkey in an AWD car and turn good 1/4 times. AWD has a huge traction advantage compared to RWD or FWD.

 

Then what makes a Supra run 8sec??

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...-you_85700.htm

And when is the last time you see an Evo hit 8sce Mr AWD

 

Well yea, among the more obvious, the X has less power, more weight, etc.

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...d_test?cid=327

 

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AWD cars do NOT dominate drag racing. Where the holy hell did you get that one from? The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of FAST drag cars are RWD. The fastest drag cars in the world are RWD.

I cut a 2.0 60' my first and only time out to the track with my '03 Z with ****ty-*** bald tires. The 275's that are now available can do much better than that.

 

haha, its called a turbo 6 cylinder with around 1,400WHP or more with some big *** slicks and that awesome "squat" suspension, haha. The AMS Evo is running low 8's with only 1,130AWHP. I bet that if they could somehow manage to get another 400whp down, they could run close to an 8 flat with a good launch. But 400whp is alot of power to gain and is probably not possible.

 

then what makes a supra run high 6sec


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eoRGDa...eature=related