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Some of my friends interrogated the Mitsubishi engineers at the Nuerburgring when they had the X out. They said that DI was pulled from the final design to make it more mod-friendly.
Ummmm..... what?
Ummmm..... what?
Last edited by arpad; Oct 11, 2007 at 11:06 PM. Reason: b00bies
i dunno how reliable that info is but if it's true that's kinda stupid. look at the chipped 335is from vishnu. crazy power from expert programming. no hardware upgrades are really needed. if the evo was like that then we'd all stop with the BS it's slower and fat and ugly, etc. we'll hafta see...
Interesting impression from some dude from across the pond:
http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/...subishi-evo-x/
http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/...subishi-evo-x/
Did I read that right...295 HP? Wow, I thought they would at least get 320 out of it, whats the point of a new engine then? Saving 27lbs but sacrificing the reliability of the 4G63? I understand the interrior and the comfort level has evolved, but I don't see the performance evolution. Can you imagine the cost of a clutch job at the dealer for that 6 speed double clutch? Ouch! Looks wise it's so so, the IX looks more unique, the X looks kinda like the Lexus IS. Seems like they made it more like BMW or Lexus and did away with the "race car" status, too bad, thats what made the Evo different and cool. I hope people like it, I'm happy with my 9.
Last edited by Cosmos; Oct 12, 2007 at 09:52 AM.
Well, our engines are 8.8:1 and that's high for a turbo car. If it really is 9:1, it is nearing a ridiculous number for a boosted application unless you don't plan on running a lot of it. Here is where I got that from:
4B11T (in as far as Wikipedia can be trusted):
Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, Turbo MIVEC
Displacement 2.0 L (1998 cc)
Bore 86 mm
Stroke 86 mm
Compression ratio 9:1
4B11T (in as far as Wikipedia can be trusted):
Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, Turbo MIVEC
Displacement 2.0 L (1998 cc)
Bore 86 mm
Stroke 86 mm
Compression ratio 9:1
Its a new engine that will get modded to all hell and put under a lot of stress. Why take that chance to shave less than 30 lbs and make less than 10 hp more. They could have just tunned the 4G63 and made more power. Im not saying it wont be reliable, but as with most new engines and transmissions there is a chance for problems, especially under high stress. You sound pretty pissed there champ, relax it'll be ok.
Its a new engine that will get modded to all hell and put under a lot of stress. Why take that chance to shave less than 30 lbs and make less than 10 hp more. They could have just tunned the 4G63 and made more power. Im not saying it wont be reliable, but as with most new engines and transmissions there is a chance for problems, especially under high stress. You sound pretty pissed there champ, relax it'll be ok.
Its a new engine that will get modded to all hell and put under a lot of stress. Why take that chance to shave less than 30 lbs and make less than 10 hp more. They could have just tunned the 4G63 and made more power. Im not saying it wont be reliable, but as with most new engines and transmissions there is a chance for problems, especially under high stress. You sound pretty pissed there champ, relax it'll be ok.
I'm still undecided as to whether the x is worth buying, so i am giving it a chance. i just have some worries. in the article they say it has a "more responsive" turbo...with no mention as to why. this leads me to believe they did the same thing they did with the 2g eclipse: put a smaller turbo in for faster spool, upped the horsepower slightly, and called it good (i may be wrong...hopefully i am). that and the fact that the compression ratio is an astronomical-for-a-turbo-engine 9:1 and i'm thinking they aren't really about boosting this thing like the 4g63, i doubt it hits 19 psi stock ( or at least not for long). all this of course is pure speculation on my part of course, it just that the x has all the tell-tale signs of having an engine not as mod-friendly as the 4g63...but of course i hope i'm wrong because i want paddle shifters and ayc and the x is the only game in town for all that!
The Evo III had 9:1 compression I believe. It was still quite tunable, I have seen some bigish numbers from Evo IIIs. And I'm sure the strength of the other engine parts (pistons, rods, etc.) had been increased a lot since the Evo III 4G63 so I doubt the 9:1 compression is going to cause any problems. And it might help make the engine more responsive off boost?
There are always many little changes to each Evo over the previous, small things that go unseen but make a little difference here and there and an overall improvement to the car. Mitsubishi's engineers know what they are doing, although sometimes I wish Mitsubishi would just let them do it.
How could anyone not like the way the new evo looks? I hear people ***** about it all the time, and it amazes me. The evo is, FOR THE FIRST TIME (no offense current evo owners) a good looking car. Magazine articles like the ones from road and track agree with me, that the evo has always been an amazing car in terms of performance, but to quote road and track, "looks more like an aarp economy rental car turned into a race car than most car enthusiast can cope with," which is part of the reason that they didn't sell to a very broad audience. Now I own an STi, which isn't much better looking, as these cars have always been sore on the eyes and a blast to drive. But the new evo really looks like a sports car finally. Kind of like an M3 and a Volvo and something else on steroids with a rally touch. It's f***ing badass, and anyone badmouthing the car needs to get a reality check. The new car is faster around a test track by a noticeable amount. READ THE LATEST ISSUE OF ROAD AND TRACK. And as far as the new motor is concerned, 9:1 is not that high compared to the old model. 8.8:1 IS NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. It's about as high as you would want to go with a high boost car. It'll be the difference of running about 17 lbs of boost than 20 lbs like last years model. It just means that the new motor has more naturally aspirated punch, which means that modding leaves a lot of potential for two reasons. The motor will still be a high boost motor, and will make lots of power with basic mods, but if serious work is going to be done to the motor, putting in some lower compression pistons solves any issues if ridiculous boost levels are desired and it should give better results than the evo 9... remember, now MIVEC is on the intake AND exhaust cams! So don't worry people, the car will be bad ***. I mean after all, it's turned me, a hardcore STi fan, into a future evo owner, and you evo guys should know how big of a deal that is. When you love one, it's hard to switch sides w/out some serious persuation, and the new evo is an itch too deep not to scratch!
How could anyone not like the way the new evo looks? I hear people ***** about it all the time, and it amazes me. The evo is, FOR THE FIRST TIME (no offense current evo owners) a good looking car. Magazine articles like the ones from road and track agree with me, that the evo has always been an amazing car in terms of performance, but to quote road and track, "looks more like an aarp economy rental car turned into a race car than most car enthusiast can cope with," which is part of the reason that they didn't sell to a very broad audience. Now I own an STi, which isn't much better looking, as these cars have always been sore on the eyes and a blast to drive. But the new evo really looks like a sports car finally. Kind of like an M3 and a Volvo and something else on steroids with a rally touch. It's f***ing badass, and anyone badmouthing the car needs to get a reality check. The new car is faster around a test track by a noticeable amount. READ THE LATEST ISSUE OF ROAD AND TRACK. And as far as the new motor is concerned, 9:1 is not that high compared to the old model. 8.8:1 IS NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. It's about as high as you would want to go with a high boost car. It'll be the difference of running about 17 lbs of boost than 20 lbs like last years model. It just means that the new motor has more naturally aspirated punch, which means that modding leaves a lot of potential for two reasons. The motor will still be a high boost motor, and will make lots of power with basic mods, but if serious work is going to be done to the motor, putting in some lower compression pistons solves any issues if ridiculous boost levels are desired and it should give better results than the evo 9... remember, now MIVEC is on the intake AND exhaust cams! So don't worry people, the car will be bad ***. I mean after all, it's turned me, a hardcore STi fan, into a future evo owner, and you evo guys should know how big of a deal that is. When you love one, it's hard to switch sides w/out some serious persuation, and the new evo is an itch too deep not to scratch!





