the weight states that its JDM spec. im sure the USDM one will be a little heavier

 

That's not guaranteed seeing how the world's safety regulations isn't much different from America's as of today... so it's possible that JDM models & USDM models will be the same structure wise. Except for maybe the stripped out lightened RS models in Japan seeing how that trim might not be available in the US anymore.

 

Grow up. The points that I've made are all valid and based on fact. And I don't even have to guess what level of education you have based on the way that you talk. It's pathetic, and I'm sure that your boss at McDonalds might be okay with it, but it won't be taking you very far, I can assure you. I see the phrase, "would you like fries with that" in your future for a long time to come. So do everyone a favor and don't come back to the forums, because you obviously have nothing worth adding. Now, can everyone just get back to talking about cars, arguing or not, it's better than talking to this idiot.

 

I think I'll go with Road and Track, rather than VincentXnewbie: pg 58, Nov 2007 issue "However, because the new Evo is about 300 lb. heavier than the outgoing model, it's a step or two slower getting to 60 mph and the quarter mile..."

It's like putting a couple of friends in your EVO and making some speed runs, then letting them out at the corner and trying again. If you had an EVO, you'd know that makes a big difference.

 

another worried dude

relax and don't call your own family pig

 

I didn't make that post, that was si_to_evo, i'm sti2evox, but that's ok.

 

^^lol si and sti

 

I have an sti and totally understand your point. but if you read the article, the car is heavier due to the stiffer chassis and upgraded awd system, making it only a hair slower in a straight line, but faster in the corners, which is what the car is all about.

 

ok, so it thought about this "so called 300 lbs".....

the jdm evo 9 is about 1410 kg (3108 lbs)

the US evo 9 is about 1480 kg (3262 lbs)

the jdm evo x is about 1520 kg (3351 lbs)

there is the gain from the jdm evos of 243 lbs, and an 89 lb incerease in USDM

the usdm evo was always heavier, its just that for the X, the weights will be similiar between jdm and US....i think that is where R&T is getting the "300 lbs" from

and that is where the "about 100 lb" difference that autoweek is getting

(btw, i got the wts from http://www.autozine.org/Graveyard/ht...ncer_2000.html
and http://www.autozine.org/0_News/Archi...ews_frame.html
scroll to the bottom)

 

First of all, if the R/T article is correct, the car IS 300 lbs heavier and that is a Pig. Putting lipstick on it doesn't change that. If the weight differential is, as others report, closer to 100 lbs, that's much better. We'll have to see what the USDM comes into the ring weighing.

As far as handling, both R/T and C/D reviewers commented the new X felt "worse" in terms of handling, while admitting the car ran a 1 second faster lap, presumably due to the active handling innovations. But, in all reality, just going from 225-45-17s to the X's 240-40-18s should be worth a second in the two minute lap, if not more.

I still say it's a nice car; just that it's moved away from what characterized the EVO - lightning quick reflexes and Porsche-like driving experience (speaking from personal experience here - I passed on a new Porsche and kept the MR ) What it's moved towards is more the performance GT market, a la M3, S4, etc. But it falls short of that high dollared mark, yet leaves behind the things that made it so appealing at 30-35K. So, for 35-40K, which is the likely entry point for the new, heavier, gentrified models, I'll pass.

 

Just a quick correction. The stock Evo 8/9 tire size is 235/45R17, the X i beleive is going to be 245/40R18. I would strongly argue against the difference in tire size making up a second on a 2 minute course. I would think that tire size would make a 0.2-0.4 difference all being equal. I think a 10% weight gain would cancel that out and make things even.

Added weight is not necessarily a bad thing. For a hypothetical example, take 2 evo 9's, with one add a 150lb roll cage, with the 2nd pull off the strut bars, underbody brace and cut the roof off saving yourself 200lbs.

The first car is the heaviest, probably the slowest in a straight line, but probably fastest around a track.

The second car is the lightest, probably fastest in a straight line, but would handle like crap, and be ungodly slow around a track.

So I'm not saying that extra weight is good. But it's not necessarily as bad as people make it out to be.

 

i thought it was 2 seconds faster on the mitsu prooving ground? whats all this "1 second faster"?

 

I am sooo excited about the new evo coming out. Its on almost every car magazine cover or at least has a spread on it. I still just dont like the GSR wheels, or the fact that they don't have GG as a color or RR...but im excited regardless.

 

All I'm seeing is a bunch of "my toy is better than yours, my dad can beat up your dad" childish behavior. This lameness is at an all time high.

 

WRC is so much worried that he has strarted giving wrong info