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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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Is this fact? I was un-aware it had direct injection. This might make it more difficult for backyard mechanics/tuning shops to mod it as there is siginificantly more fuel pressure..somewhere in the area of 1600 psi for DI motors.
Yes, aftermarket modification will be much more difficult.
Camshaft swaps will be a PITA
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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do you think that the 4b11 and the 4b11t will be an easy swap. an 08 lancer evo engine in an 08 lancer.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
Is this fact? I was un-aware it had direct injection. This might make it more difficult for backyard mechanics/tuning shops to mod it as there is siginificantly more fuel pressure..somewhere in the area of 1600 psi for DI motors.

Also, does anyone have any info if mitsu used the same main/rod bearing procedures as the 2nd gen DSM's... meaning, are they standard size bearings or size to match bearings where each journal has to be measured and then a bearing selected from your measurments?

James
I actually don't know for sure, but at the very least it has dual MIVEC. But anyway, that's what they said about putting fuel injection, computers, etc. in cars, and we seem to do ok still. Besides, the diesel guys don't seem to be having too much trouble with direct injection.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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HPA doesn't seem to have any problem with big power turbo kits for the R32. I was told by them in an email correspondence that the stock system can handle 400 hp, and after that, they have clutch upgrades.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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the 4B11 does NOT have direct injection. i WISH they did that. wonder why the 335i engine is so awesome. direct injection has a lot to do with it. and the mazdaspeed3? yep direct injection also. the main pitfalls of the 4B11 IMO are the absence of direct injection and variable vane turbo. and i bet it's NOT that hard/expensive as mitsu is a major turbo manufacturer and already has variable vane turbo diesels. who knows....

what the 4B11 does have is cam on bucket design valvetrain so this WILL limit the "aggressiveness" of the cam profile.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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HPA doesn't seem to have any problem with big power turbo kits for the R32. I was told by them in an email correspondence that the stock system can handle 400 hp, and after that, they have clutch upgrades.
400 hp ain't enough for evo fanbois. it's gotta be 1000hp or else ur a loser. 4B11 GT42R kit wha?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by madfast
the 4B11 does NOT have direct injection. i WISH they did that. wonder why the 335i engine is so awesome. direct injection has a lot to do with it. and the mazdaspeed3? yep direct injection also. the main pitfalls of the 4B11 IMO are the absence of direct injection and variable vane turbo. and i bet it's NOT that hard/expensive as mitsu is a major turbo manufacturer and already has variable vane turbo diesels.

That was my understanding as well. I do wish they had DI. You would recieve even better fuel mileage and low-mid range response.

Too bad the speed 3 isn't awd

James
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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hmm...fixed up RS..nice
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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The new evo x is really easy to get info about if you know where to look. Google "evo x motor", and somewhere down the list go to motor authority's website and they have the entire japanese brochure of the evo x, which already launched in Japan. There's some really good info about the new car. And I don't know why people are talking bad about the new engine because it has an aluminum block. Most shortblock upgrades for the STi, for example, use an aluminum block for it's weight savings, and with forged internals you can still make 700 plus hp reliablely. What matters most when it comes to handling power is not the block, it's the internals, which are all still forged. Some of the highest performance cars in the world use aluminum blocks, so don't worry about the new motor being weak. Mitsubishi has not forgotten about it's hard core fanbase, they build the car to handle big power as they always have. The new car may appeal to a wider audience thanks to more refined styling and a higher overall build quality, which will be reflected in the price, about 38-40,000 for the MR, but it's still an evo, and it really has evolved. Read the latest issue of Road and Track, they talk about how the new evo is faster around a track than the old model, with a much improved awd system. And now we finally get AYC, so I'd say things are looking pretty good. Afterall, the new evo x is what has made me an evo fan finally, after being an STi guy for a long time. So I'd say, "mission accomplished, mitsubishi...mission accomplished."
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
... And I don't know why people are talking bad about the new engine because it has an aluminum block. Most shortblock upgrades for the STi, for example, use an aluminum block for it's weight savings, and with forged internals you can still make 700 plus hp reliablely. What matters most when it comes to handling power is not the block, it's the internals, which are all still forged. Some of the highest performance cars in the world use aluminum blocks, so don't worry about the new motor being weak...
yeah, the bmw 335 has an aluminum block too, and it is a new motor, yet it is being tuned pretty well from what ive read

these evo X haters just arent giving it a chance
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EzeE1o
yeah, the bmw 335 has an aluminum block too, and it is a new motor, yet it is being tuned pretty well from what ive read

these evo X haters just arent giving it a chance
I'm still undecided as to whether the x is worth buying, so i am giving it a chance. i just have some worries. in the article they say it has a "more responsive" turbo...with no mention as to why. this leads me to believe they did the same thing they did with the 2g eclipse: put a smaller turbo in for faster spool, upped the horsepower slightly, and called it good (i may be wrong...hopefully i am). that and the fact that the compression ratio is an astronomical-for-a-turbo-engine 9:1 and i'm thinking they aren't really about boosting this thing like the 4g63, i doubt it hits 19 psi stock ( or at least not for long). all this of course is pure speculation on my part of course, it just that the x has all the tell-tale signs of having an engine not as mod-friendly as the 4g63...but of course i hope i'm wrong because i want paddle shifters and ayc and the x is the only game in town for all that!
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EzeE1o
yeah, the bmw 335 has an aluminum block too, and it is a new motor, yet it is being tuned pretty well from what ive read

these evo X haters just arent giving it a chance
I'm still undecided as to whether the x is worth buying, so i am giving it a chance. i just have some worries. in the article they say it has a "more responsive" turbo...with no mention as to why. this leads me to believe they did the same thing they did with the 2g eclipse: put a smaller turbo in for faster spool, upped the horsepower slightly, and called it good (i may be wrong...hopefully i am). that and the fact that the compression ratio is an astronomical-for-a-turbo-engine 9:1 and i'm thinking they aren't really about boosting this thing like the 4g63, i doubt it hits 19 psi stock ( or at least not for long). all this of course is pure speculation on my part of course, it just that the x has all the tell-tale signs of having an engine not as mod-friendly as the 4g63...but of course i hope i'm wrong because i want paddle shifters and ayc and the x is the only game in town for all that!
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