Exactly my thoughts. The last generation Evo and base Lancer didn't have a lot in common, Evo was riding on a basically different (more rigid and also heavier) frame. That alone has added a lot of weight. Evo X, as mentioned, probably won't see much of a weight increase in the frame compared to the new base Lancer. Also the new DSG transmission shouldn't be that much heavier than the CVT found in the new Lancer, the only thing that will add weight is probably turbo and SAWD system (combined with AYC), but then again Evo X will also use more aluminum parts than the base new Lancer such as aluminum suspension, hood, and roof. Anyway, The new Evo with DSG should weight 3350 lbs at the most, manual tranny will of course be lighter by about 100lbs or so.

Also, as it was mentioned in above posts, the new Lancer is a bit larger car volumewise, it's not like it kept the old smaller dimensions and got heavier (also the new safety regulations don't make it any easier on reducing weight but that goes for the whole car industry). Another thing is that the car can get a bit heavier but as long as it is engineered right it shouldn't matter, it's all in the suspension, traction, and weight distribution and I am more than sure that even if the Evo will be heavier than previous generation, the new SAWC system will recompensate for the added weight as it will provide better traction. The new base Lancer is actually a bit shorter than previous generation but also wider, anyone who drove the new Lancer knows that the turning radius has been greatly improved and my experience it makes the new Lancer actually more agile and nimble than previous generation even though it is a bit heavier. Also, anyone who has seen the new engine will notice that it has a LOT of empty room in the back and I wonder what that space can be used for in an Evo X

 

Even if it does not have the "2-step" i am sure it can be programmed in. I mean look at the 8's they did not have 2-step at all and tuners can easily add it...

 

not to mention, the AYC gear is mounted where some of our emmisions gear is on USDM cars. so to add it would require removal of this and make it not legal for the street.

don't forget the evo should have some aluminum panels to lighten the weight some too compared to the base lancer.

 

2 step is great!!!

 

sorry to be a noob...but what is step 2?

 

2-step is basically a second rev limiter....... I mean you have one rev limiter set at like 7500 rpms and is active any time you drive the car.

the 2-step from the factory is set at 5000 rpms and is only active while you are in gear with the cluth pedal depressed and reving the engine. The rpms will not go above the 5k or whatever it is set at, it's basically for launchin the car....

 

OHHHHH nice! thanks!

 

i hope it is a large turbo, is it really 250+ more lbs?

 

if only mitsu didnt hav such a tight grip on info we would all already hav plans for these pup...

 

I really think the new EVO X is automatic because this will open the doors for drivers that don't know stick, look at the new e60 M5 they made it automatic and sold more of them to buyers that would not even think of buying an M5 because they cant drive stick.

Trust me the new X will have a total new following because of the automatic, now this also translates to lower cost for the car, the more they build the cheaper it will be.

we should see the top of the line X lower then the EVO 9 MR.

my 2 cents

 

Technically they didn't sell that many M5's. Yeah, they sold a lot of e60's but not as much as the previous generation. And many of the previous M5 owners never went out to buy the new e60's M5 because it didn't come in a manual. On top of that the people that bought the new ones always bring it back to the dealer with broken transmissions because that tranny couldn't handle the power.

But needless to say the Evolution X in automatic trim will probably sell.

 

SMG is NOT automatic

 

its not auto u have to manually shift to the next gear just like with the old stick method.

find two guys in ur area with new vw gtis. one with 6 speed and one with dsg with the same mods. the dsg will rape

also a certain car isnt for people that cant drive stick. i like stick but i also like just cruising. just pressing the gas is nice sometimes when u just wanna get somewhere and not have to climb through ur gears again at every light.

 

I want a manual like I want live axles, leaf springs, all-steel ladder frame construction, and bias-ply tires.

Sure, a regular slushbox would be horrible in an Evo, but this isn't a regular slushbox. They're claiming it'll be better than VW's awesome DSG.

 

they need to make it a manual