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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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This car have high expectations to edge out the Evo IX by at least a few ticks in 0-60, quarter mile, etc. etc. to keep the Evo nameplate respectable.

Seeing how DSG has been implemented effectively in some cars beforehand & Mitsu wants to keep the Evo recognized as the responsive speedster we all know & love, I wouldn't be so quick to compare this to a automatic lazy shifter.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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I'm surprised we haven't had a thread about this yet.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Personally I think that this is great. I have a wife that has absolutely no desire to learn how do drive a stick, trust me I have tried over and over again to convince her of the benifits of stick. Like Adrenaline 1 said above, she just wants step on the gas and cruise, in other words be lazy. So by going to DSG style shifting method Mitsu will be able sell their product to another demographic. If it's as effective as they claim it to be be they will also be able to open up to this market with out sacrificing performance. Give it a chance, DSG was a step forward for VW hopefully this is a step forward for Mitsu.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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We've been talking about the same thing here http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2

Personally, I like both, but what mostly holds me back from the DSG style box is that I don't want to be limited in terms of tuning and such.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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i was told by a salesman when i bought my IX that it the X was going to be a half and half i think is calle triptonic you shift from the sterring wheel, they might come in optional too.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by adrenaline1
find two guys in ur area with new vw gtis. one with 6 speed and one with dsg with the same mods. the dsg will rape .
This is highly misleading. Volkwagen admits to tuning the DSG car with more boost to counter the drivetrain loss of the DSG wet clutch mechanism. Generally for all models the spec'd 0-62 times are identical. The video of the Japanese drivers testing the GTI are misleading because they were not tuned equally. The DSG isn't a rracing transmission, and a racing sequential or dogbox will kick the living crap out of it.

Just to qualify your claim of "rape," this is the fastest DSG GTI I could find with a published 1/4 mile time:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-11912.html

A lot of mods to run 99mph.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Personally I'd be interested to see an auto Evo with a torque converter and the trans setup/tuned like the new steptronics in the BMW's. It actually shifts fast for an auto (100ms shift times) and are generally only around 10 hp down vs a stick.

My reasoning is you have to slip the sh*t out of your clutch to get off the line with these cars. Which leads to burnt up clutches, stronger clutches, and more broken driveline parts. With a TC it can slip all day and not burn up and doesn't shock the driveline the way a clutch can. Plus you keep the engine on boost during shifts. Sounds promising to me.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by apagan01
i was told by a salesman when i bought my IX that it the X was going to be a half and half i think is calle triptonic you shift from the sterring wheel, they might come in optional too.
Your salesman doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by adrenaline1
its not auto u have to manually shift to the
find two guys in ur area with new vw gtis. one with 6 speed and one with dsg with the same mods. the dsg will rape
what? the dsg will rape mitsubishi?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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srry if this video is a repost just never seen this one


http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=4484
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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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manual is outdated and prone to transmission destruction... *money shifting* anyone???
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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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prone to trans destruction?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Old May 23, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Somebody set us up the DSG.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Why do so many think DSG=Automatic? The internals are nothing alike. DSG only takes the left foot out of the equation. Unlike automatics that take everything out of the equation.
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