Thanks for the great post!........I could definitiely own this EVO.......I love my IX MR.......but this ride rocks too!

Sick Speed

 

If Chicago's is anything like Detroit.... I don't see why they wouldn't?

 

 

Newsflash, the Evo X isn't really an Evo, and it is going to suck donkey *****. No 4G63, instead you get a crappy watered down aluminum block. No Japanese designed chassis (you get a craptastic Dodge Caliber derived SUV chassis instead). The car will be heavier than ever before, and will suck really, really, really, really, really hard. If you have an Evo 9, consider yourself lucky to have the last of the true performance oriented Evolutions. Amen.

 

Amen? gimme a break. time will tell. You may be right, and when that time comes you can pat yourself on the back (because no one else will) and tell yourself, "I knew it" and you self esteem may feel good for a day or so until it wears off.

I however am not going to speculate whether it will "suck really really really hard" or not. But rather, I'll patiently wait until people are actually driving and modifying them and proving whether or not they can handle higher boost levels on that aluminum block, and whether or not that handling, acceleration, braking etc has gone down the tubes. Then I'll know.

for the record, I don't think that will be the case. If i had to guess, I think it will be the most impressive performing Evo ever albeit a bit bloated to appeal to a larger market.

 

What you fail to realize is that time has already told us the new Evo X sucks. Aluminum blocks physically cannot handle more power than iron blocks. Thats actually a hard core FACT. Hmmm...oh wait, heavier cars don't accelerate, corner, or brake as fast as lighter cars...oh wait I think thats a fact too!

 

The SR20DET is a full aluminum block and it can withstand about the same amount of power and boost as the 4G63T. As long as Mitsubishi designed the engine properly and overbuilt key areas, an aluminum engine can hold a good amount of power and in the same time it will weigh less than a iron block.

 

Hmm, someone hurry up and tell most other car manufacturers that aluminum blocks are wrong design!! All these cars like M3 had it all wrong all the time and they didn't even know it! There are obviously no benefits of having an aluminum block and only thing you get is going backward! Who the hack cares that aluminum block is going to be lighter (force better weight distribution front to rear), will have better cooling, and who knows what else that is screwed up over there!!

First of all, there is no fact that the car will be heavier, which makes the whole thing just another speculation! Now, the weight is not the only thing that affects how car is going to handle! Lots of other things including the chases stiffness, suspension geometry, weight distribution, and bunch more are actually affecting the handling of the car. So, you have no fricking clue how those other things are going to be and the car and you give your self a right to bash it the way you do!! I guess it makes a lot of sense to you to see the glass half empty and **** on it because of that!!

Fedja

 

Man that is a wonderful example of an ignorant response. As has been stated, there are aluminum motors out there already like the the SR20DET that can handle similar boost and power levels as the 4G63.

As for the extra weight of the X........ there are already people stripping their interiors etc to lose weight on current evos. Nothing will stop anyone from doing the same with the X and with the extra power and braking it will perform better than lower powered previous gen evos.

 

Oh wait.....fact... The McLaren SLR weighs 3898lbs compared to the Evo at 3262lbs. and out accelerates, and out brakes the Evo by a TON! But I'm sure those are false specs since a heavier car cannot accelerate, corner or brake as fast as a lighter car.

Go ahead, make the arguement that the SLR has 600 hp. Plenty of Evos out there pushing similar power.

 

WRONG. The stock SR20DET can hold as much power as a stock 4G63 maybe, but the thereotical upper limits of the 4G63 (1000-1600 HP) is WAY higher than the SR20.

Aluminum blocks are nice in their stock form, they weigh less than iron blocks and can hold stock power levels just fine. Its only when you modify them they tend to distort, twist, crack, and melt.

HEAVIER cars can be made to perform well, but lighter cars can be made to perform BETTER. Take a 3800lb Mclaren and a highly modified lotus Elise, guess which one is going to stop better? I guess no one here appreciates physics?

YES its all speculation for now, but Mitsubishi has declared that the prototype X will be VERY close to what we will see in production. What a sad day for Mitsubishi. R.I.P.

 

The SR20 is also an old design, there's no reason why Mitsu engineers can't do better years later. Please explain what theoretical upper limits are according to you and how that has any bearing on what most of us are expecting out of this new car. If you were someone who has built a 1600hp 4G63 then I think you'd have 'cause to b1tch. But you aren't, you haven't and most importantly you don't.

I also would like to see what scientific results you've come up with to support your statments that a "heavier Dodge Caliber" dereived chassis can not be made to handle better then what we have. Even though we know Mitsubishi developed the chassis, licensed a basic version to Chrysler, and continued refining it for their own vehicles. But for a sensationalist like yourself, I'm sure that went waaay over your head.

What a sad day for EvoM to have listen to your inane rantings.

 

nah it gonna have the lauch control

 

You can probably count the number of 1500hp+ Evo's in the world on 1 hand. I have no aspirations to put down more than 400hp, I'll probably be happy with whatever it comes with stock (I'm happy with the power my 9 puts down). So if an aluminum block will handle that I have no problem. Judging by our sig you won't have too much problem with the upper limites of an aluminum block.

You are not talking apples to apples here.. The weight is not as important as how it is used.. For example: Take 2 stock evos. Add a 12 point cage to one. Which one is lighter and which one handles better?

 

Sonicnofadz is totally insane!