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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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You people just don't seem to get it. The Evo was an incredible car for its high potentional through serious modification. The heavier chassis and aluminum block is going to take away everything that made it a great "tuner" car. If you don't care about modifying your car (i.e. you are lame and like to go slow) then maybe this will be the right car for you. Or better yet, maybe you should just go buy a Mercedes instead.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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You people just don't seem to get it.
Riiight. Remember we're all dumber then you because we aren't able to magically deduce the capabilities of a car that hasn't been released yet.

The Evo was an incredible car for its high potentional through serious modification. The heavier chassis and aluminum block is going to take away everything that made it a great "tuner" car. If you don't care about modifying your car (i.e. you are lame and like to go slow) then maybe this will be the right car for you. Or better yet, maybe you should just go buy a Mercedes instead.
So maybe we should all be driving original Evo I's then, since our cars are heavier and have more pollution controls.

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Sonicnofadz. How do you feel about having been ripped off buying your evo knowing that the 7 previous generations were by far superior cars to yours. I mean the first evo weighed in at 2730lbs, over 500lbs lighter than your car. How can you even call yourself an evo driver when all you have is that bloated bastardized POS.

BTW you never answered my questions.

Car A - stock 2006 Evo IX.
Car B - stock 2006 Evo IX + 12 point weld in cage.

Which car weighs more? Which car handles better?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
car. If you don't care about modifying your car (i.e. you are lame and like to go slow) then maybe this will be the right car for you. Or better yet, maybe you should just go buy a Mercedes instead.
You gotta be joking right? The new EVO X a slow car?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Most people are not concerned about modifying their Evos to the maximum limit, because most Evo owners are not made out money and are pretty happy with their stock or mostly stock Evo. The average Evo owner at best will only do minor bolt-ons and be done with it. So with your logic most Evo owners are lame? Even if they can afford to build an all out drag or roadrace machine it does not mean they will.

It is really hard to take your opinion seriously with your sensationalist attitude and not backing up your statements with solid facts. Nobody cares about your unwarranted ideas and lack of understanding of the subject matter. You are the last person in world I would turn to for advice when it comes to performance engineering.

How many times do people need to tell you that you are wrong, so you can just shut the hell up sonicnofadz?

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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I know that two different models will come out one with a 5 speed and then the 6 speed paddel shifting......also, there are two different versions of the Evo....US and Japan. The US is going to use the new 4b11t motor and the one in Japan is going to use the 4g63 motor still. The bodies have the same design but the US version is long and bigger and the Japan version is still using the same size as the current evo just with the new framing and design to keep up with the ralliart circut. Sucks I know...when I saw the pics of both of them together big difference in size. FYI the new X's are supposed to launch sooner than people think. I cannot specify dates but will deff be before Thanksgiving.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
Most people are not concerned about modifying their Evos to the maximum limit, because most Evo owners are not made out money and are pretty happy with their stock or mostly stock Evo. The average Evo owner at best will only do minor bolt-ons and be done with it. So with your logic most Evo owners are lame? Even if they can afford to build an all out drag or roadrace machine it does not mean they will.

It is really hard to take your opinion seriously with you sensationalist attitude and not backing up your statement with solid facts. Nobody cares about your unwarranted ideas and lack of understanding of the subject matter. You are the last person in world I would turn to for advice when it comes to performance engineering.

How many times do people need to tell that you are wrong, so you can just shut the hell up?
I'm not wrong, and all of you will soon see how horribly wrong Chrysler has managed to mangle the Evo. Maybe I see the Evo has a different kind of car to most. The Evo in its stock form is not that special, it truly shines once its given more power and suspension modifications, and its potentional has always been very high (until now). Vigo, I'm glad you think so highly of me but you take things too personally. This thread is about about the Evo X and what people think about it. I may not be 100% certain (as no one is at this point) but all signs are saying that the new "Evo" will be (if you can even call a car with a Dodge Caliber chassis an "Evo" lol) horrendous, unmodifiable, heavy, and slow.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sportmitsubishi
I know that two different models will come out one with a 5 speed and then the 6 speed paddel shifting......also, there are two different versions of the Evo....US and Japan. The US is going to use the new 4b11t motor and the one in Japan is going to use the 4g63 motor still. The bodies have the same design but the US version is long and bigger and the Japan version is still using the same size as the current evo just with the new framing and design to keep up with the ralliart circut. Sucks I know...when I saw the pics of both of them together big difference in size. FYI the new X's are supposed to launch sooner than people think. I cannot specify dates but will deff be before Thanksgiving.
Proof? Links?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vigo
Proof? Links?
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I haven't heard any thing about 2 different models.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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I don't really care and I have no personal interest in this argument. I have no opinion on the Evo X, because I have no idea how it's going to perform and there are no solid facts to say it's going to suck, or be really badass. You're the one that needs to let it go. Having an opinion on a car that does not exist in it's 100% final form is stupid and irrational. In essence all our opinions are worthless. You're as illogical as a religious fanatic trying to argue about the existance of god.

I'm done here.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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OMG, this guys is a stand-up comic for evoM...hahaha.

sonicnofadz so you are bashing the EVO X, something that no one has tested yet, or tried to use for reaching your "thereotical upper limits" < that freaking funny btw.
Another thing how can you call the members here slow because by looking at your SIG your evo is nowhere near your "thereotical upper limits" as you say and probably will never get there.
Most people don't have enough money to push the EVO past 500hp and those who have the money will most likely never reach 1000hp excluding AMS and maybe few others. So the point is, most of us wont even get anywhere close to "thereotical upper limits" of the X.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
I'm not wrong, and all of you will soon see how horribly wrong Chrysler has managed to mangle the Evo.
Chrysler has no input on how Mitsubishi designs the Lancer. Or any vehicle, for that matter, when the two were in bed together, Mitsu developed small cars for Chyrsler, not the other way around. The Raider pickup is the only thing close to a Mitsu badged Chrysler and thats all it is and ever was.

Maybe I see the Evo has a different kind of car to most.
A true visionary. We're sooo lucky to be enlightened by your input.

The Evo in its stock form is not that special,
Even though its won several awards and wows the automotive press, its "nothing special." Could you please tell us all about your accomplishments in the automotive world? Post your resume of success? Why should we all listen to what you have to say and take it as gospel? I thought the car's engineering to become a 1600hp 1.2 lateral g pulling car was what you were preaching about? If its "nothing special" then any car should have that potential, right?

I may not be 100% certain.
Massive understatement there. Your conclusions are based on theory that doesn't even seem to be grounded in reality. Its one thing for us to speculate on an upcoming vehicle, but you take things to such extremes with nothing to back it up.

I suppose if the evo comes out and is a world beater car, you'll still claim you were right if Buschur or AMS aren't pushing 1800hp out of it within weeks of its release, or if Tarzan doesn't smash the Tsukuba record by ten seconds a week later - even if the car is better stock or with mild bolt ons then the last one.

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by o2thag
OMG, this guys is a stand-up comic for evoM...hahaha.

sonicnofadz so you are bashing the EVO X, something that no one has tested yet, or tried to use for reaching your "thereotical upper limits" < that freaking funny btw.
Another thing how can you call the members here slow because by looking at your SIG your evo is nowhere near your "thereotical upper limits" as you say and probably will never get there.
Most people don't have enough money to push the EVO past 500hp and those who have the money will most likely never reach 1000hp excluding AMS and maybe few others. So the point is, most of us wont even get anywhere close to "thereotical upper limits" of the X.
Why are you looking at my sig? My Evo is hardly the only 4G63 powered car that I own, and it is not the only Evo I actively wrench on. People, I am going to leave this dumb thread once and for all. THINK ABOUT IT. What made the Evo so great? How did they manage to develop a AWD car of such capability in the first place? Your answer: WRC. The Evo X HAS NO RACING HERITAGE/RESEARCH/TESTING/DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. They slapped together an this car all ***** nilly and called it the "Evolution X". The Previous Evo chassis (Evo 7 8 9) was a result of lots of testing via WRC. I hardly think anything on the Evo X (including its sorry *** SUV chassis) has saw competition yet.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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How do you know that Mitsubishi will not use this chassis and engine in WRC? Any links to back up that totally made up statement?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
How did they manage to develop a AWD car of such capability in the first place? Your answer: WRC. The Evo X HAS NO RACING HERITAGE/RESEARCH/TESTING/DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. They slapped together an this car all ***** nilly and called it the "Evolution X". The Previous Evo chassis (Evo 7 8 9) was a result of lots of testing via WRC. I hardly think anything on the Evo X (including its sorry *** SUV chassis) has saw competition yet.
So you think all their engineering prowess went up in smoke? You think they didn't take notes, or backup up their hard drives? Its more or less the same exact development team, and its not like the CT9A chassis saw much succes in WRC anyway. But it turned out to be a great street car, most likely because they learened from their success with the IV, V, and VI. But the bottom line is, you have no clue that the car was "slapped together" and are just talking out of your ***.

People, I am going to leave this dumb thread once and for all.
Awesome.
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