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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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lancer and evo x conversion

I know it is impossible to convert any of the lancers that mitsubishi has produced into evolutions because of the chassis and frames. I havent studied the new lancers yet but am curious if it is possible to do a full conversion with a 2008 lancer to an evo x.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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How can anybody have a real clue on this as the evo X isn't out for another 9mo? Give it some time. if anybody says they know, ..... then maybe they have a direct link to the almighty himself.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:46 AM
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Well... I've already googled it... read it on wikipedia, and it gave me a good thorough read.
However, I don't get why people are bothered(?) by it. I'm guessing from the read that it is better than Automatic, but the question that I'm just sticking on and can't solve is, can you still get the same power out of DSG as Manual? It says it automatically upshifts or something... so when you basically WANT to speed up fast, and give more power in one gear, it will automatically do it for you? Because in normal driving people usually upshift once you get to 2-3 revs, but sometimes people want to push it up to 4 or 5 (or more seeing that the Evo holds more) to get a bit more power... but how is this capable on the DSG if it says it upshifts for you?
No, no, no. The VW DSG in manual mode will only upshift if you are well PAST redline to save the engine. It would not surprise me if the Mitsubishi version was programmed instead to simply bounce off of the rev limiter since it's a more sport-oriented car. It also downshifts for you, but only when you're coming to a stop. Again, the Evo could be programmed to hold whatever gear it's in and make the driver downshift manually before taking off.

I remember reading that the previous generation Porsche Turbo was faster with a slushbox for the same reason - the turbo(s) stay spooled between gears.

Again, with the durability concerns? C'mon, it's got a brand new engine! OMG, stay away!

There are 2 main improvements you get with a DSG over a slushbox. 1. No power loss due to torque converter - think of it as an automated manual transmission. 2. The version of DSG I had in my VW took away almost no control from the driver. It simply protected the car from damage. If you want to damage your car, get a manual, otherwise the DSG will give you full control when you want it, and faster speeds.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:23 AM
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[COLOR=black]I just feel that next year you will see everyone driving an EVO because of the new transmission (this I feel will hurt resale
No way. Everyone drives Civics, 350zs, G35s, etc, all of which have astounding resale value.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Here's another question about the DSG: Anyone know if the paddles will turn with the wheel, or if they are mounted to the column?
I'm sure they'd turn with the wheel.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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My guess is that the levers attached to the column need to be quite beefy to withstand the abuse; whereas, the ones on the back of the wheel are similar to buttons that are easy, cheap, and light weight in comparison.

I thought I'd hate having them on the wheel, and it was problematic at first, but eventually I got used to it to the point that I don't think I'd care.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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I think this is more of a hypothetical discussion more than anything. If it WERE upgradable (with the exception of the extra chassis reinforcements), at minimum you'd be looking at drivetrain, engine, wiring harness/sensors, some interior parts, suspension. Basically if there's a chance of it even happening, you'd have to strip the car.

The real question is will the Lancer GSX be upgradeable to an Evo X?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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anyone have any idea when they go on sale yet ?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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may 2008 ishhh

I wanna see a white one.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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may 2008 ishhh

I wanna see a white one.
Really? I thought they went on sale this summer
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Hrm, although I like the advances (specifically the dry clutch) in this new DSG:

http://www.gizmag.com/go/7321/

I'm worried about the hp/torque limits. Isn't the Evo X also going to be a transverse setup?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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I forget where I read it, but it's thought that the EVO X will be released 1st Quarter 2008 (February) as a short run 2008 model, with production continuing into the 2009 model year in the 2rd Quarter. Essentially the 2008 and 2009 EVOs will be the exact same car.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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dual exhaust brobably weights 100lb

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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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will be out in Japan late 3rd or 4th quarter this yr and 1st quarter in NA. is what mitsu was pushing for not sure if that change since january.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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dual exhaust brobably weights 100lb
Not likely. The split for the duals probably occurs behind the rear axel. So by going to a single exhaust, you'd only be saving the weight of one muffler and about a foot or so of pipe. Yeah, that's some good weight to shave, but it's not 100lbs. Probably 20-30 at most.

I still think, however, that weight-reduction parts will be big for the EVO X. Even if it's not that much heavier than the 9, that 3500lb figure is now engrained in the psyche of the enthusiast crowd. (Just wait, even if the X comes in at 3200lbs, people will still quote 3500.) So that, coupled with the high sides and heftier look will lead people to believe it's a fatty and they'll want to put it on a diet.
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