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lancer and evo x conversion
I know it is impossible to convert any of the lancers that mitsubishi has produced into evolutions because of the chassis and frames. I havent studied the new lancers yet but am curious if it is possible to do a full conversion with a 2008 lancer to an evo x.
How can anybody have a real clue on this as the evo X isn't out for another 9mo? Give it some time. if anybody says they know, ..... then maybe they have a direct link to the almighty himself.
Well... I've already googled it... read it on wikipedia, and it gave me a good thorough read.
However, I don't get why people are bothered(?) by it. I'm guessing from the read that it is better than Automatic, but the question that I'm just sticking on and can't solve is, can you still get the same power out of DSG as Manual? It says it automatically upshifts or something... so when you basically WANT to speed up fast, and give more power in one gear, it will automatically do it for you? Because in normal driving people usually upshift once you get to 2-3 revs, but sometimes people want to push it up to 4 or 5 (or more seeing that the Evo holds more) to get a bit more power... but how is this capable on the DSG if it says it upshifts for you?
However, I don't get why people are bothered(?) by it. I'm guessing from the read that it is better than Automatic, but the question that I'm just sticking on and can't solve is, can you still get the same power out of DSG as Manual? It says it automatically upshifts or something... so when you basically WANT to speed up fast, and give more power in one gear, it will automatically do it for you? Because in normal driving people usually upshift once you get to 2-3 revs, but sometimes people want to push it up to 4 or 5 (or more seeing that the Evo holds more) to get a bit more power... but how is this capable on the DSG if it says it upshifts for you?
I remember reading that the previous generation Porsche Turbo was faster with a slushbox for the same reason - the turbo(s) stay spooled between gears.
Again, with the durability concerns? C'mon, it's got a brand new engine! OMG, stay away!
There are 2 main improvements you get with a DSG over a slushbox. 1. No power loss due to torque converter - think of it as an automated manual transmission. 2. The version of DSG I had in my VW took away almost no control from the driver. It simply protected the car from damage. If you want to damage your car, get a manual, otherwise the DSG will give you full control when you want it, and faster speeds.
My guess is that the levers attached to the column need to be quite beefy to withstand the abuse; whereas, the ones on the back of the wheel are similar to buttons that are easy, cheap, and light weight in comparison.
I thought I'd hate having them on the wheel, and it was problematic at first, but eventually I got used to it to the point that I don't think I'd care.
I thought I'd hate having them on the wheel, and it was problematic at first, but eventually I got used to it to the point that I don't think I'd care.
I think this is more of a hypothetical discussion more than anything. If it WERE upgradable (with the exception of the extra chassis reinforcements), at minimum you'd be looking at drivetrain, engine, wiring harness/sensors, some interior parts, suspension. Basically if there's a chance of it even happening, you'd have to strip the car.
The real question is will the Lancer GSX be upgradeable to an Evo X?
The real question is will the Lancer GSX be upgradeable to an Evo X?
Hrm, although I like the advances (specifically the dry clutch) in this new DSG:
http://www.gizmag.com/go/7321/
I'm worried about the hp/torque limits. Isn't the Evo X also going to be a transverse setup?
http://www.gizmag.com/go/7321/
I'm worried about the hp/torque limits. Isn't the Evo X also going to be a transverse setup?
I forget where I read it, but it's thought that the EVO X will be released 1st Quarter 2008 (February) as a short run 2008 model, with production continuing into the 2009 model year in the 2rd Quarter. Essentially the 2008 and 2009 EVOs will be the exact same car.
Not likely. The split for the duals probably occurs behind the rear axel. So by going to a single exhaust, you'd only be saving the weight of one muffler and about a foot or so of pipe. Yeah, that's some good weight to shave, but it's not 100lbs. Probably 20-30 at most.
I still think, however, that weight-reduction parts will be big for the EVO X. Even if it's not that much heavier than the 9, that 3500lb figure is now engrained in the psyche of the enthusiast crowd. (Just wait, even if the X comes in at 3200lbs, people will still quote 3500.) So that, coupled with the high sides and heftier look will lead people to believe it's a fatty and they'll want to put it on a diet.
I still think, however, that weight-reduction parts will be big for the EVO X. Even if it's not that much heavier than the 9, that 3500lb figure is now engrained in the psyche of the enthusiast crowd. (Just wait, even if the X comes in at 3200lbs, people will still quote 3500.) So that, coupled with the high sides and heftier look will lead people to believe it's a fatty and they'll want to put it on a diet.







