Depends on what you definition of "is" is...

 

No worries. Then an AWD, naturally aspirated Lancer to compete with the WRX. Sounds good to me .

And yeah, not only does Toyota focus on the money making vehicles, they have the art of making Lexus-quality interiors and the lowest defect vehicles down to a science.

But exciting cars they do not make. The biggest problem facing Toyota is that the average age of their buyer is in the 30-40 bracket. Hence Scion... which I think has a bigger embrace by adults then by the targeted buyer in their 20s.

Plus, no one buys Toyota because they perform... .

is in an interesting position to define itself as an enthusiast brand, kind of like BMW of yore... which does make great handling sedans, but now has all that blue chip prestige-Bullsh#te associated with it... i.e. $$$$ . Let alone all this electric gizmo garbage... maybe Alpha Romaeo is a better comparison?

Come on , take the bull by the horns and show these chumps what a great handling car is... bring the MR.... and that the true worth of the car is not the badge but what it does.

VIVA .
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Hey, by the way, the Endevour is a big hit... first in the Edmunds comparison... and sales are looking good. Keep it up .

 

Manufacturers don choose the model year. There are EPA rules about MY classification. Cars are classified by build date not announcement date or sales date. This is so that there is no confusion about the regulations that a car must meet.

A car released in Oct 04 would be a 05. The build dates for Evos just don't match up very well with the US EPA MY cut off dates.

Erik

 

The DCCD on a STi is not the same thing as ACD at all. The ACD is a very good addition to the Evo. I have had many miles on an ACD and AYC equipped Evo. I like both systems very well. On a VII there were several ECU upgrades for the ACD as well. The AYC system changed a lot from the Evo VI days. The 6.5 (TME) and the VII had a much-improved AYC system. The AYC system actively transfers velocity between the rear wheels. The velocity differential is up to 2 mph for AYC and up to 5 mph on the SAYC.

The ACD is more rear biased in tarmac mode than 50:50. In gravel it is close to 50:50. In snow mode it is very front wheel biased. This really is an over simplification since each mode is really a program for the intended surface not just a ratio change like the Sti.

The K1 and K2 upgrades for the ACD ECU change all the modes.

A good AYC system Overview

Erik

 

Brief lesson in human psychology.
5 stages of dealing with crisis.

The reality: THE MR IS NOT COMING TO OUR SHORES, NOT THIS YEAR AT LEAST.


Stage One: Denial.
No, it is. Their website said so.


Stage Two: Anger and Blame.
You liars. Those stupid Mitsu japs!

Stage Three: Bargaining.
Please, please bring it over. We got the petition going.

Stage Four: Depression.
It's not coming! Now I'm stuck with my 270 hp, car of the year , rally inspired lancer evolution VIII. Oh, God, why!!


Stage Five: Acceptance.
Oh well. I mean come on, who actually is going to feel 6lbs difference in the roof unless you had popped X and smoked a reefer. The new 6MT is mushy. Everything else turbo, shocks is upgradeable.



So which stage are you stuck on?

 

Pjork-
The one thing that Mitsu has is either the youngest or second youngest average buyer of all US market autos. The other company vying for first place is VW. All the other companies want to go after the younger buyers. Most attempts have failed. PT Cruiser, Scion, Honda Element, Focus SVT.

If Mistu wants to be the new younger BMW they can pull it off. Subaru is trying the same thing BTW. The new Legacy will be the big test for there move into the BIG leagues.

A full line of Evolutions like the rest of the world would be a good place to start. Shogun Evolutions exist elsewhere sell them here. Push the Rally and Rally Raid angle. Mitsu has been creating great performance cars for a while. Just have to inform the public.

 

okay st00pid question number 1 billion... did the EvoVII's have AYC ACD?

 

I deny ever thinking it was in fact coming..

Therefore..I am in denial..

 

Yes, the Evo VII GSR did.

 

Road and Track, Volume 55 Number 9, May 2004, Page 48

Evo MR Sets New Standard -- Again..

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Pocket Rocket Evo Possibe 250hp 1.5 I4 3 door Colt, AWD, Twin Clutch Paddle-Shift Transmission. Very light 0-60 4.0s ~140mph Top Speed..

Could Mitsu be on the ball?

 

Could you please bring me some lottery numbers from the future as well

 

magazines always have their issuses like 1 month ahead

 

Actually, the Colt Evo has been in "showing" for about 2 years now. The Colt Evo has shown up in a number of auto shows around the world, and I think the first showings of it appeared around the time the Evo8 did. There were rumors saying that the Colt would be the base for the new WRC car, but financially speaking that just wasn't possible. There was no way for Mitsu to redevelop a whole new platform on a whole new car in one off season.

There has been lots of rumors that the VIII is the last Lancer based Evo, and that Mitsu would move on to the Colt for the new Evo's. It's really all still up in the air right now, but it is likely that we'll see at least one or two more Evo's based on the Lancer before the Colt takes over.

 

BTW, I don't know why R&T said it was an "artist impression" because that exact car was shown at the Tokyo Auto Salon earlier this year..

 

No and your not allowed to look at this either..